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08-27-2004, 08:42 PM
Cops you are just another brain washed kid in Canada because their media has no conservative outlets. Canada believes in entitlement and gives free medicare. Even if you are well they will give you medicine. "Here go put it your garage in case a family member gets sick." In America we have to work our ass off for our jobs, money, family, and freedom. Look no further than to the Olympics in Athens, and there is a direct correlation between Canada and America's type of government and their success in the Olympics. Canada only has 5 medals and America over 50. Because I earned what I have right now and so has every other successful American. That is why we are the top in the world in Science, Military, Education etc. That is why we are the last remaining superpower in the world. And Canadians belief in entitlement move them ever closer to a socialistic type government everyday led by pot head losers like you that drink and smoke weed everyday while the Canadian government fully supports it.

Drink? If I'm not mistaken USA allows drinking to, you have no right to say that we drink everyday if USA has the exact same rights as us regarding drinking. Medical pot is legalized, that stuff sucks, its legalized in most north american countries anyways, the good pot is not legalized. And about the olympic shit, read below.





Send> you know if usa has more medals than canada it doesnt mean they're a better country to live in..
ignite> i didnt say that
Send> yes you did
ignite> i send that we have more medals because we work our asses off
Send> we do too, we just amy not have the best athletes
Send> they legalized medical pot, that stuff is shit, they didnt legalize the good pot
Send> you have no right to call us potheads if we just have medical pot legalized, which as i said is in most western countries
Send> canada works no harder than usa, we just may have special services like health care etc that are provided for us
Send> winning more medals than us means nothing on how hard you guys work and how much canada works to provide food and clothes to their loved ones
ignite> i dont want to argue with u
ignite> i want to play the game
Send> it just means usa has more athletes that compete in more events
ignite> im tired of arguing with idiot
ignite> no
Send> it just means usa has better athletes, it does not imply to anything to how hard we work to provide the necessities that we need
Send> we may have spent 1 million$ out of 32 million for the olympics, but maybe we want to spend it on something more useful for the country, instead of spending so much just to earn a few medals, maybe we use that extra 31 million towards healthcare or something
Send> canada has a very little population participating int he olympics, but usa has a lot, thats why they have moremedals than us, we work for the medals too
Send> and train for it, but usa may have better athletes, it does NOT even connect to how hard we work in canada
Send> Get your facts straight before you decide to bash canada with shit



Ignite, stop acting like a retard and look at the facts, YOU are the real idiot, stop thinking you're the greatest political expert ever.

Mr. Peanuts
08-28-2004, 04:27 AM
Whats wrong with a free health service?

Cops
08-28-2004, 04:49 AM
Everything is cool, how are things with you?

schope
08-28-2004, 10:46 AM
lol, that quote about ignite shows how laconic he is and that yet exist americans that believe on the american way of life and on the american dream on this shitty capitalism system that shows those "ideals" and doesnt give chance to everyone to achieve it.

sry for bad english, its not my 1st language and ive learnt a bit of it by myself.

Liquid Blue
08-28-2004, 11:56 AM
Do you even know what laconic means? Or did you hear it while flipping past an episode of jeopardy and thought it would earn you cool points.

schope
08-28-2004, 01:07 PM
Do you even know what laconic means? Or did you hear it while flipping past an episode of jeopardy and thought it would earn you cool points.

yea i know

you know bro, we have books in many languages not only english. my english is poor but i can assure ive read more books than you have ever masturbated urself

cheers

Liquid Blue
08-28-2004, 02:17 PM
So you know that you used the word out of context, then? If you aren't sure about a word and how it is used in english, why not just say what you mean as simply as you can? I'm pretty sure you're talking about my dick in the last part of your post, but I can't understand if you are insulting me or boasting about your playboy collection.

Cheers.

Troll King
08-28-2004, 03:22 PM
For those of you keeping score at home:

laconic:
(adjective)
Using or marked by the use of few words; terse or concise


"I grow laconic even beyond laconicism; for sometimes I return only yes, or no, to questionary or petitionary epistles of half a yard long."
-Pope

Liquid Blue
08-28-2004, 03:39 PM
Maybe it's just me, but Ignite's post didn't seem short at all. When I think of concise posts, I think of Ilyaz, TK or Evasive.

ignite ignite
08-28-2004, 04:28 PM
lol, that quote about ignite shows how laconic he is and that yet exist americans that believe on the american way of life and on the american dream on this shitty capitalism system that shows those "ideals" and doesnt give chance to everyone to achieve it.

sry for bad english, its not my 1st language and ive learnt a bit of it by myself.

Schope I believe you need a lecture on the greatness of Capitalism. Capitalism is the only system based on the recognition that each individual owns his life. Capitalism is the only social system in which individuals are free to pursue their rational self-interest, to own property and to profit from their actions. It entrenches individual rights, limited Constitutional government, and political/intellectual/economic freedom.

The more capitalist a culture - the greater its freedom and prosperity

That is the verdict of history. In just two short centuries, capitalism has lifted men’s living standards to heights undreamed of in the pre-capitalist era. Often forgotten today is that Western Europe, prior to the capitalist revolution of the late Eighteenth Century, suffering under the political yoke of the feudal aristocracy, was the equivalent of a Third World country - wracked by famine, recurrent plague, and the most unspeakable poverty. But no longer.

When was the last time a famine occurred in any capitalist nation - whether in Western Europe, North America or Asia? The United States has never suffered a famine in its history. Capitalism has created abundance unmatched in human history, enabling hundreds of millions to live better today than all the kings of yesterday.

Less capitalism means more human misery

But the non capitalist nations - the fascist, socialist, military or theocratic dictatorships - enslave their own citizens and subsist in abysmal squalor. In many African countries the living standard is one or two hundred dollars per year. In North Korea, they starve to death by the tens of thousands. In Cuba, they drown trying to swim to freedom in the United States. Millions of oppressed people around the globe yearn to emigrate to the Free World. But who in the capitalist nations seeks to emigrate to Cambodia?

What makes capitalism’s astounding success possible?

What principles explain the fact that mankind’s greatest inventions and works of art - his most life-giving material and spiritual advances - the steam engine, the cinema, the telegraph, the telephone, the electric light, the novel, the automobile, the symphony, the airplane, the radio, the television, the personal computer, the Internet and countless medical cures - were created under capitalism?

The simple answer is: freedom.

When men are free to pursue their rational self-interest, when they are free to use their minds in the quest to profit and better their lives, they are magnificently productive. The political/economic freedom of capitalism liberates the best minds and the most ambitious men to build, to create, to innovate, to invent, to advance human well-being and happiness.

Mankind’s greatest inventor, Thomas Edison, in his laboratory at Menlo Park, specifically tailored his projects toward the purpose of profitability. He, and so many of the other great inventors and industrialists responsible for raising men’s living standards, earned and enjoyed great wealth. Left free - under capitalism - to create, produce, and build for personal gain they consequently raised the living standards of all.

The Mind

Involved in this is a deeper principle: Capitalism is the system of the mind. The mind is man’s fundamental survival instrument, just as wings are a bird’s. It is only by means of rational thinking and productive work that man can raise his living standards and increase his life expectancy. But the mind does not function under coercion. Coercion paralyses creativity. The mind cannot be enslaved. Capitalism flourishes because it is the only system of free minds, free men and free markets.

The greatest thinkers and activists of history - from Aristotle to John Locke, from Thomas Jefferson to Adam Smith, Ludwig von Mises, and Ayn Rand - have recognized, fought for, and glorified the freedom of man’s mind. They have understood that when men are oppressed, the rational mind is stifled, and the darkness of barbarism follows. But when men are free to think and to act on their thinking, when the mind is liberated, the Renaissance and the Enlightenment are possible. Freedom is freedom of the mind. Oppression is oppression of the mind.

Universal and Inevitable

It is no accident that man’s freest periods have seen his greatest achievements. From the Golden Age of Athens to the Italian Renaissance to the technological and industrial breakthroughs of the United States, the freedom of man's mind has led to magnificent advances in philosophy, the arts and science.

This is the promise and the possibility of capitalism. This is the Capitalist Vision. It is our vision.

Liberate man’s mind and behold the spectacle of his advance. Revel in the beauty of his sculptures, paintings and symphonies, soar with the heroes of his novels, marvel at his philosophic, scientific and technological advance.

The West progressed culturally and economically because it had at least some reverence for man’s mind and the inalienable rights of the individual. These are the inescapable prerequisites of human advancement. If we desire the effect of cultural Renaissance, we must enact the cause of political/economic freedom.

The current predicament of the Third World’s starving millions is identical to that of Europe in the Dark Ages. Their minds and bodies are oppressed by political dictators. Give them freedom - and give them life. They have the advantage of seeing what the West has accomplished. When they institute freedom, they can replicate the achievements of capitalism.

Your life, your choice

Capitalism is the greatest benefactor man has ever had. It is time for the thinking men and women of every nation to recognize that fact and to fully embrace the system of the mind and of individual rights.

Men and women of all countries unite - in your support of capitalism.
You have a world of joyous achievement to win.

ignite ignite
08-28-2004, 04:31 PM
yea i know

you know bro, we have books in many languages not only english. my english is poor but i can assure ive read more books than you have ever masturbated urself

cheers

Schope since you don't speak good english I took the time to translate the greatness of Capitalism into Portuguese.

Capitalismo é o único sistema baseado no reconhecimento de que cada indivíduo é dono de sua própria vida. O Capitalismo é o único sistema social no qual os indivíduos estão livres para perseguir o seu auto-interesse racional, possuir propriedade, e tirar proveito de suas próprias ações. Ele tem como âncoras os direitos individuais, o governo limitado constitucionalmente, e a liberdade política/intelectual/econômica.

Quanto mais capitalista uma cultura – maior sua liberdade e prosperidade

Este é o veredicto da História. Em somente dois curtos séculos, o capitalismo levantou os níveis de vida da humanidade para alturas nunca sonhadas na era pré-capitalista. Freqüentemente esquecido hoje em dia é o fato de a Europa Ocidental, antes da revolução capitalista do final do Século Dezoito, sofrendo sob a dominação política da aristocracia feudal, ter sido o equivalente a um país do Terceiro Mundo – assolado pela fome, pragas recorrentes, e a mais absoluta pobreza. Mas não é mais assim.

Quando foi a última vez que a fome em massa ocorreu numa nação capitalista – seja na Europa Ocidental, América do Norte, ou Ásia ? Os Estados Unidos da América nunca sofreu de fome em massa em toda a sua história. O Capitalismo criou uma abundância sem precedente na história humana habilitanda centenas de milhões a viverem melhor hoje do que todos os reis do passado.

Menos Capitalismo significa mais miséria humana

Mas as nações não capitalistas – as ditaduras fascistas, socialistas, militaristas ou teocráticas – escravizam seus próprios cidadãos e subsistem numa miséria abismal. O padrão de vida em muitas nações africanas é de cem a duzentos dólares americanos por ano. Na Coréia no Norte pessoas morrem de fome pelas dezenas de milhares. Em Cuba eles se afogam tentando nadar para a liberdade nos Estados Unidos. Milhões de pessoas oprimidas ao redor do mundo anseiam emigrar para o Mundo Livre. Mas quem nas nações capitalistas procuram emigrar para o Camboja ?

O que torna possível o sucesso impressionante do Capitalismo ?

Quais são os princípios que explicam o fato de que as maiores invenções e obras de arte da humanidade – os avanços materiais e espirituais que mais promoveram a vida – a máquina a vapor, o cinema, o telégrafo, o telefone, a luz elétrica, a novela, o automóvel, a sinfonia, o avião, o rádio, a televisão, o computador pessoal, a Internet, e incontáveis curas médicas – foram criados sob o Capitalismo ?

A resposta simplesmente é: LIBERDADE.

Quando os homens estão livres para perseguir seu auto-interêsse racional, quando eles estão livres para usar suas mentes na procura do lucro e do melhoramento de suas vidas, eles são magnificamente produtivos. A liberdade política/econômica do capitalismo libera as melhores mentes e os homens mais ambiciosos para construir, criar, inovar, inventar, e promover a felicidade e o bem estar humanos.

O maior inventor da Humanidade, Thomas Edison, em seu laboratório em Menlo Park, customizava seus projetos especificamente com o objetivo da lucratividade. ele, e tantos outros grandes inventores e industrialistas responsáveis pelo aumento dos padrões de vida da humanidade, mereceram e desfrutaram de grande riqueza. Deixados livres – sob o Capitalismo – para criar, produzir, e construir para ganho próprio eles, como conseqüência, elevaram o padrão de vida de todos.

A Mente

Envolvido nisso está um princípio mais profundo: o Capitalismo é o sistema da mente. A mente é o instrumento fundamental de sobrevivência do homem, assim como as asas o são para os pássaros. É somente por meio do pensamento racional e pelo trabalho produtivo que o homem pode elevar seu padrão de vida e aumentar sua expectativa de vida. Mas a mente não funciona sob coerção. A coerção paralisa a criatividade. A mente não pode ser escravizada. O Capitalismo floresce por que é o único sistema de mentes livres, homens livres e mercados livres.

Os maiores pensadores e ativistas da história – de Aristóteles a John Locke, de Thomas Jefferson a Adam Smith, Ludwig von Mises, e Ayn Rand – reconheceram, lutaram, e glorificaram a liberdade da mente humana. Eles compreenderam que quando os homens são oprimidos, a mente racional é subjugada, e a escuridão do barbarismo se segue. Mas quando os homens são livres para pensar e agir com base no que pensam, quando a mente é liberada, a Renascença e o Iluminismo são possíveis. Liberdade significa liberdade da mente. Opressão significa opressão da mente.

Inevitável

Não é por acidente que os períodos de maior liberdade para o homem presenciaram suas maiores realizações. Desde a Idade de Ouro de Atenas até a Renascença Italiana até as desafiantes descobertas tecnológicas e industriais dos Estados Unidos da América, a liberdade da mente do homem levou a avanços magníficos na filosofia, nas artes e na ciência.

Esta é a promessa e a possibilidade do capitalismo. Esta é a Visão do Capitalismo. Esta é a nossa visão.

Libertemos a mente do homem e presenciemos o espetáculo de seu avanço. Alegremo-nos com a beleza de suas esculturas, pinturas e sinfonias, vibremos com os heróis de suas novelas, maravilhemo-nos de seu avanço filosófico, científico e tecnológico.

O Ocidente progrediu culturalmente e economicamente porque ele teve um mínimo de reverência pela mente humana e pelos direitos inalienáveis do indivíduo. Não se pode escapar destes pré-requisitos do avanço humano. Se nós desejarmos o efeito da Renascença cultural, nós devemos implementar a causa da liberdade política/econômica.

O predicamento atual dos milhões de indivíduos esfomeados do Terceiro Mundo é idêntico ao da Europa da Idade da Escuridão. Suas mentes e seus corpos estão oprimidos por ditadores políticos. Dê-lhes a liberdade – e dê-lhes a vida. ele tem a vantagem de ter presenciado o que o Ocidente alcançou. Quando eles instituírem a liberdade, eles poderão replicar os resultados do Capitalismo.

Vossa vida, vossa escolha

O Capitalismo é o maior benfeitor que o homem já teve. Está na hora de os homens e mulheres pensantes de cada nação reconhecerem este fato e abraçarem inteiramente o sistema da mente e dos direitos individuais.

Homens e mulheres de todos os países unam-se – em seu apoio ao capitalismo.
Você tem a ganhar um mundo de jubilosas realizações.

ignite ignite
08-28-2004, 04:39 PM
Drink? If I'm not mistaken USA allows drinking to, you have no right to say that we drink everyday if USA has the exact same rights as us regarding drinking. Medical pot is legalized, that stuff sucks, its legalized in most north american countries anyways, the good pot is not legalized. And about the olympic shit, read below.





Send> you know if usa has more medals than canada it doesnt mean they're a better country to live in..
ignite> i didnt say that
Send> yes you did
ignite> i send that we have more medals because we work our asses off
Send> we do too, we just amy not have the best athletes
Send> they legalized medical pot, that stuff is shit, they didnt legalize the good pot
Send> you have no right to call us potheads if we just have medical pot legalized, which as i said is in most western countries
Send> canada works no harder than usa, we just may have special services like health care etc that are provided for us
Send> winning more medals than us means nothing on how hard you guys work and how much canada works to provide food and clothes to their loved ones
ignite> i dont want to argue with u
ignite> i want to play the game
Send> it just means usa has more athletes that compete in more events
ignite> im tired of arguing with idiot
ignite> no
Send> it just means usa has better athletes, it does not imply to anything to how hard we work to provide the necessities that we need
Send> we may have spent 1 million$ out of 32 million for the olympics, but maybe we want to spend it on something more useful for the country, instead of spending so much just to earn a few medals, maybe we use that extra 31 million towards healthcare or something
Send> canada has a very little population participating int he olympics, but usa has a lot, thats why they have moremedals than us, we work for the medals too
Send> and train for it, but usa may have better athletes, it does NOT even connect to how hard we work in canada
Send> Get your facts straight before you decide to bash canada with shit



Ignite, stop acting like a retard and look at the facts, YOU are the real idiot, stop thinking you're the greatest political expert ever.

Send not only did you change the ?log of what you actually said to me you continually harrassed me with this dumb crap. I was in the middle of a twbd, and I really didn't feel like arguing with another drunk and slightly retarded Canadian. I suggest you read what I posted on Capitalism.

Evasive
08-28-2004, 05:35 PM
heh ignite is a moron, he copy and pastes shit from other sites to make himself look intelligent.. unfortunately, it hasn't worked

Troll King
08-28-2004, 06:04 PM
Send not only did you change the ?log of what you actually said to me you continually harrassed me with this dumb crap. I was in the middle of a twbd, and I really didn't feel like arguing with another drunk and slightly retarded Canadian. I suggest you read what I posted on Capitalism.

I agree.

Ignite ignite can do a much better job of making himself look like an idiot that he doesn't need Send's help at all. Shame on you, Send. Shame on you.

Squeezer
08-28-2004, 07:02 PM
Maybe it's just me, but Ignite's post didn't seem short at all. When I think of concise posts, I think of Ilyaz, TK or Evasive.

Look at the two posts below ya

and i cant read portugese.....sooooo :down:

schope
08-28-2004, 08:21 PM
So you know that you used the word out of context, then? If you aren't sure about a word and how it is used in english, why not just say what you mean as simply as you can? I'm pretty sure you're talking about my dick in the last part of your post, but I can't understand if you are insulting me or boasting about your playboy collection.

Cheers.

well, i dont think so.

as tk said.

laconic:
(adjective)
Using or marked by the use of few words; terse or concise

i dont need to explain that if you are laconic it because you dont have knowlege to talk. At least i thought you had a minimun greek history knowlege, at least about Sparta or Esparta.

diss me about my grammar, but not about what i talk

i definately dont talk about what i dont know. (clear thats what u did)

i found funny the way words like your dick and playboy came to your mind when i wrote masturbate.

Troll King
08-28-2004, 08:57 PM
well, i dont think so.

as tk said.

laconic:
(adjective)
Using or marked by the use of few words; terse or concise

i dont need to explain that if you are laconic it because you dont have knowlege to talk. At least i thought you had a minimun greek history knowlege, at least about Sparta or Esparta.

diss me about my grammar, but not about what i talk

i definately dont talk about what i dont know. (clear thats what u did)

i found funny the way words like your dick and playboy came to your mind when i wrote masturbate.

How is it possible for you to take the definition I provided and then use it incorrectly? I mean, soon after you called him laconic, ignite responded with posts that are whole screenfuls longer than all the others. How is that being terse?

Ha! Sheesh.
08-28-2004, 10:27 PM
Well at least the Ctrl-C followed by Ctrl-V to repost some capoganda seems pretty "laconic" to me. :)

But don't settle for just regurgitated words and thoughts- get the WHOLE EXPERIENCE (http://www.celebratecapitalism.org/bernsteindeclaration/english/). Bahaha.

Liquid Blue
08-28-2004, 11:26 PM
well, i dont think so.

as tk said.

laconic:
(adjective)
Using or marked by the use of few words; terse or concise

i dont need to explain that if you are laconic it because you dont have knowlege to talk. At least i thought you had a minimun greek history knowlege, at least about Sparta or Esparta.

diss me about my grammar, but not about what i talk

i definately dont talk about what i dont know. (clear thats what u did)

i found funny the way words like your dick and playboy came to your mind when i wrote masturbate.

Thanks for proving that you still don't know what you're talking about. Ignite's posts are anything but concise, even if it is all copy and paste garbage.

Mr. Peanuts
08-29-2004, 05:32 AM
ignite's head is up the ass of the system.

schope
08-29-2004, 10:25 AM
How is it possible for you to take the definition I provided and then use it incorrectly? I mean, soon after you called him laconic, ignite responded with posts that are whole screenfuls longer than all the others. How is that being terse?

well bro, try to look on a more complete dictionary, i advise an academic one.
if prolly doesnt know the meaning cause you never heard or read about it, i showed by your small dictionary simple definition an logical conclusion that a complete academic dictionary might help you to find it out.

Rund
08-29-2004, 10:50 AM
Hehehheh heya *ignite! : ))))))))))))

=oP~~~~

schope
08-29-2004, 10:57 AM
Ignite, i can read and understand english, im not good at writing correctly it tough.

I was thinking about, and first of all i wanna say sorry for insulting you, you have allways been cool to me, i see your point, and i respect it.

But i think many things you said on your post are at least questionable. For example, your concept of liberty, there isnt total liberty where a State with soberain power exists, since Liberalism principles present on ocidental constitutions are herance of the contratualism theory where ppl abdicate of the total liberty and of the state of nature to be controled on the life dispute by the State.

As for what you say, that Liberty is the main principle that made usa and capitalism succeed, man, i dont agree with you. Max Weber has an interesting and very accepted study about how protestant ethics was the main thing that made capitalism succeed on europe and mainly usa, you should read this book, in Brazil its called "A Ética protestante e o Espírito do Capitalismo".

If you wanna get into why, economically capitalism succeeded you should try to read Capital, "O Capital" from Marx, mainly the volumes "ou tomos" 2 and 3 that explain sometimes numerically, the capital logic and the tendences about future crises, same as we live today of making the profits the minimum, since the more value "mais valia" is under human work that is allways lowering on the cicle of the capital, so you can conclude that capitalism and profit only exists because of the human work.

About american dream of life, fight and work to succeed and consume. I just would like to point out a cool thing. Do you know that there is not enough iron in the world to make possible for every family have your own fridge, oven and televison ?

So, Do you really think everyone has oportunity to succeed and consume ?

Imagine that, if everyone had a Tv, a fridge and an oven, we would not have more iron in the world. Cool aint it ? Does everyone needs a cell phone ? (Just an example)

Capitalism logics is the logic of the consume, you arent completely happy with moments in your life and with people you like near you, you feel totaly happy when you consume things that you think that you need, like a cool car, a cell phone ;)

There is a book from Aldoux Huxley "Admirável mundo novo" or "Brave New World" writen in 1932, its a science fiction book that some geeks consider that some kind of profecy about capitalism, there he says interesting things, like "a small box that will make everyone happy, wont be anyone sad on future", "man will be generated on laboratories" and "ppl will feel happy for buying and consuming what that box make they think they need to", its very cool bro.

Im not saying im marxist or comunist or anything else. As known capitalism has its contradictions and paradoxes, and they must be solved before anything worse come out on near future.

As said, i still respect your point of view.

After that post ill make a "silence strike" :X



Schope since you don't speak good english I took the time to translate the greatness of Capitalism into Portuguese.

Capitalismo é o único sistema baseado no reconhecimento de que cada indivíduo é dono de sua própria vida. O Capitalismo é o único sistema social no qual os indivíduos estão livres para perseguir o seu auto-interesse racional, possuir propriedade, e tirar proveito de suas próprias ações. Ele tem como âncoras os direitos individuais, o governo limitado constitucionalmente, e a liberdade política/intelectual/econômica.

Quanto mais capitalista uma cultura – maior sua liberdade e prosperidade

Este é o veredicto da História. Em somente dois curtos séculos, o capitalismo levantou os níveis de vida da humanidade para alturas nunca sonhadas na era pré-capitalista. Freqüentemente esquecido hoje em dia é o fato de a Europa Ocidental, antes da revolução capitalista do final do Século Dezoito, sofrendo sob a dominação política da aristocracia feudal, ter sido o equivalente a um país do Terceiro Mundo – assolado pela fome, pragas recorrentes, e a mais absoluta pobreza. Mas não é mais assim.

Quando foi a última vez que a fome em massa ocorreu numa nação capitalista – seja na Europa Ocidental, América do Norte, ou Ásia ? Os Estados Unidos da América nunca sofreu de fome em massa em toda a sua história. O Capitalismo criou uma abundância sem precedente na história humana habilitanda centenas de milhões a viverem melhor hoje do que todos os reis do passado.

Menos Capitalismo significa mais miséria humana

Mas as nações não capitalistas – as ditaduras fascistas, socialistas, militaristas ou teocráticas – escravizam seus próprios cidadãos e subsistem numa miséria abismal. O padrão de vida em muitas nações africanas é de cem a duzentos dólares americanos por ano. Na Coréia no Norte pessoas morrem de fome pelas dezenas de milhares. Em Cuba eles se afogam tentando nadar para a liberdade nos Estados Unidos. Milhões de pessoas oprimidas ao redor do mundo anseiam emigrar para o Mundo Livre. Mas quem nas nações capitalistas procuram emigrar para o Camboja ?

O que torna possível o sucesso impressionante do Capitalismo ?

Quais são os princípios que explicam o fato de que as maiores invenções e obras de arte da humanidade – os avanços materiais e espirituais que mais promoveram a vida – a máquina a vapor, o cinema, o telégrafo, o telefone, a luz elétrica, a novela, o automóvel, a sinfonia, o avião, o rádio, a televisão, o computador pessoal, a Internet, e incontáveis curas médicas – foram criados sob o Capitalismo ?

A resposta simplesmente é: LIBERDADE.

Quando os homens estão livres para perseguir seu auto-interêsse racional, quando eles estão livres para usar suas mentes na procura do lucro e do melhoramento de suas vidas, eles são magnificamente produtivos. A liberdade política/econômica do capitalismo libera as melhores mentes e os homens mais ambiciosos para construir, criar, inovar, inventar, e promover a felicidade e o bem estar humanos.

O maior inventor da Humanidade, Thomas Edison, em seu laboratório em Menlo Park, customizava seus projetos especificamente com o objetivo da lucratividade. ele, e tantos outros grandes inventores e industrialistas responsáveis pelo aumento dos padrões de vida da humanidade, mereceram e desfrutaram de grande riqueza. Deixados livres – sob o Capitalismo – para criar, produzir, e construir para ganho próprio eles, como conseqüência, elevaram o padrão de vida de todos.

A Mente

Envolvido nisso está um princípio mais profundo: o Capitalismo é o sistema da mente. A mente é o instrumento fundamental de sobrevivência do homem, assim como as asas o são para os pássaros. É somente por meio do pensamento racional e pelo trabalho produtivo que o homem pode elevar seu padrão de vida e aumentar sua expectativa de vida. Mas a mente não funciona sob coerção. A coerção paralisa a criatividade. A mente não pode ser escravizada. O Capitalismo floresce por que é o único sistema de mentes livres, homens livres e mercados livres.

Os maiores pensadores e ativistas da história – de Aristóteles a John Locke, de Thomas Jefferson a Adam Smith, Ludwig von Mises, e Ayn Rand – reconheceram, lutaram, e glorificaram a liberdade da mente humana. Eles compreenderam que quando os homens são oprimidos, a mente racional é subjugada, e a escuridão do barbarismo se segue. Mas quando os homens são livres para pensar e agir com base no que pensam, quando a mente é liberada, a Renascença e o Iluminismo são possíveis. Liberdade significa liberdade da mente. Opressão significa opressão da mente.

Inevitável

Não é por acidente que os períodos de maior liberdade para o homem presenciaram suas maiores realizações. Desde a Idade de Ouro de Atenas até a Renascença Italiana até as desafiantes descobertas tecnológicas e industriais dos Estados Unidos da América, a liberdade da mente do homem levou a avanços magníficos na filosofia, nas artes e na ciência.

Esta é a promessa e a possibilidade do capitalismo. Esta é a Visão do Capitalismo. Esta é a nossa visão.

Libertemos a mente do homem e presenciemos o espetáculo de seu avanço. Alegremo-nos com a beleza de suas esculturas, pinturas e sinfonias, vibremos com os heróis de suas novelas, maravilhemo-nos de seu avanço filosófico, científico e tecnológico.

O Ocidente progrediu culturalmente e economicamente porque ele teve um mínimo de reverência pela mente humana e pelos direitos inalienáveis do indivíduo. Não se pode escapar destes pré-requisitos do avanço humano. Se nós desejarmos o efeito da Renascença cultural, nós devemos implementar a causa da liberdade política/econômica.

O predicamento atual dos milhões de indivíduos esfomeados do Terceiro Mundo é idêntico ao da Europa da Idade da Escuridão. Suas mentes e seus corpos estão oprimidos por ditadores políticos. Dê-lhes a liberdade – e dê-lhes a vida. ele tem a vantagem de ter presenciado o que o Ocidente alcançou. Quando eles instituírem a liberdade, eles poderão replicar os resultados do Capitalismo.

Vossa vida, vossa escolha

O Capitalismo é o maior benfeitor que o homem já teve. Está na hora de os homens e mulheres pensantes de cada nação reconhecerem este fato e abraçarem inteiramente o sistema da mente e dos direitos individuais.

Homens e mulheres de todos os países unam-se – em seu apoio ao capitalismo.
Você tem a ganhar um mundo de jubilosas realizações.

Mr. Peanuts
08-29-2004, 01:12 PM
Well at least the Ctrl-C followed by Ctrl-V to repost some capoganda seems pretty "laconic" to me. :)

But don't settle for just regurgitated words and thoughts- get the WHOLE EXPERIENCE (http://www.celebratecapitalism.org/bernsteindeclaration/english/). Bahaha.
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Troll King
08-29-2004, 08:17 PM
well bro, try to look on a more complete dictionary, i advise an academic one.
if prolly doesnt know the meaning cause you never heard or read about it, i showed by your small dictionary simple definition an logical conclusion that a complete academic dictionary might help you to find it out.

Fine. Tell us what you think it means then.

GoldenPlums
08-29-2004, 08:55 PM
I doubt if half of the population of England knows what laconic means so I'd give schope a bit of a break.


EDIT: This post was performed without the use of a dictionary.

Ewan
08-29-2004, 10:30 PM
http://www.greekshares.com/celebrate_capitalism.asp
http://www.celebratecapitalism.org/bernsteindeclaration/english/
http://radicalacademy.com/newsletter14.htm
http://www.sharetrader.co.nz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17076&whichpage=1
http://bureaucrash.com/modules/mylinks/viewcat.php?cid=1

There are many more, but I can't be arsed to paste them all

ignite, write some of your own stuff for a change.

Liquid Blue
08-29-2004, 10:35 PM
well bro, try to look on a more complete dictionary, i advise an academic one.
if prolly doesnt know the meaning cause you never heard or read about it, i showed by your small dictionary simple definition an logical conclusion that a complete academic dictionary might help you to find it out.

It would be so much easier to post what this " academic" definition is. You're basically saying " since you don't know I won't tell you- but I'm right anyway ".

Mr. Peanuts
08-30-2004, 04:59 AM
Come on, ignite, make a comeback, don't blatantly disappear because youre too embarrassed.

Jerome Scuggs
08-30-2004, 07:25 AM
this is the epitome of mized feeling. my lust to defend capitalism to it's death and my unqillingness to agree with the stupid people :(

Cops
08-30-2004, 12:46 PM
Thank god it's Monday :D

Twerp
08-30-2004, 01:38 PM
:confused: why?

Evasive
08-30-2004, 01:46 PM
conan o brien is back on

Squeezer
08-30-2004, 11:39 PM
this is the epitome of mized feeling. my lust to defend capitalism to it's death and my unqillingness to agree with the stupid people :(
I dont like posts that i have to study for before i read them....or pull out my pocket dictionary