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Aura
07-28-2012, 08:19 PM
Before you read this, know that these rankings are different from last year, and they will be overall higher than last season for everyone. The scale was slightly different last season. I apologize they took so long to post, but people were extremely slow on sending ratings back. These will be posted on the actual TWDT site shortly.

Also, all these ranks are up for appeal. You cannot appeal your own ranking, but you can appeal another player's rank. So, read and enjoy! Let the rage ensue! :)

Please reference this spreadsheet from now on. This is the master list. Some names were auto-added randomly to teams so we changed their rank to 2* to be fair since skill varied from 1-5*.

Master List: http://goo.gl/ONQ4R

PapaRaazi
07-28-2012, 08:25 PM
why are you making it more expensive to get bad wbs?

PapaRaazi
07-28-2012, 08:25 PM
oh nvm didnt think this is all leagues afk

Slum
07-28-2012, 09:06 PM
Jav Ratingssssssssssssssss

zidane
07-28-2012, 09:12 PM
three 8's total and one of em being trasher? seems odd (he could only twl in basing)

Hulk
07-28-2012, 09:15 PM
Jav Ratingssssssssssssssss

??? it's overall rating...

and you probably need some 9s and more 8s

PapaRaazi
07-28-2012, 09:17 PM
should use the older rating system next time this shit is confusing

Aura
07-28-2012, 09:24 PM
should use the older rating system next time this shit is confusing

Well, taking into consideration every single person that was a part of TWDT last season is either MIA/AFK/on vacation, fis and I did as best as we could in this time frame. I still don't even have full access to the TWDT site, and what access I do have, it isn't working properly. :3

With Ease
07-28-2012, 09:31 PM
Nevermind. Aura paying me to play.

Aura
07-28-2012, 09:34 PM
Never signed up, and don't plan on playing. Would be wise to remove me before someone wastes a pick on me.

paul made me sign you up. I refuse to take you off the list.

With Ease
07-28-2012, 10:10 PM
With the addition of groups, TWDT is dead before it even started. What's the point of selecting captains if staff pre-selects groups of packaged players for captains to choose from? A draft is about finding value, and the group system is inherently flawed as many groups are extremely unbalanced. Draft day is once a year and brings a bit of activity to the zone. What's the point in rushing things with groups of draft picks that weren't even selected by the captains?

Hulk
07-28-2012, 10:27 PM
Don't even understand what the point of this pairing system is for

Rasaq
07-28-2012, 10:27 PM
You see a player with a 8 or higher rating grouped with two people you never even heard of, you're going to make a pick on the group based off of what knowledge you have of the higher ranked player, thus allowing new players the opportunity to squad with people and get to know one another. Aura has his reasons and I back him up completely.

PapaRaazi
07-28-2012, 10:29 PM
ughhh, yeah dont do groups

Hulk
07-28-2012, 10:31 PM
okay so those 2 newbies ease gets paired with will join a team and never get played.. same shit as individual drafting

PapaRaazi
07-28-2012, 10:32 PM
You see a player with a 8 or higher rating grouped with two people you never even heard of, you're going to make a pick on the group based off of what knowledge you have of the higher ranked player, thus allowing new players the opportunity to squad with people and get to know one another. Aura has his reasons and I back him up completely.

Don't all players get drafted anyways? don't see why groups are necessary for that

With Ease
07-28-2012, 10:34 PM
Or...you could just select players individually in a snake draft because you know...it's a DRAFT league. Having someone arbitrarily set these groups before the draft begins cheapens everything. I can't think of a single positive of this grouping system. It allows new players the chance to squad with people? Really? There are other ways of making this happen without destroying the entire league.

Hulk
07-29-2012, 03:12 AM
probably make M_M an 8 or at least higher and Ease a 10. thx

midoent
07-29-2012, 05:21 AM
i dont think we have enoughp layers for 8 squads, id say 4 is a perfect number (face it there will be many no shows)

midoent
07-29-2012, 05:31 AM
couldn't edit so wanted to add: jamal higher

RednaZ
07-29-2012, 08:11 AM
I don't really see how these ratings are "overall higher than last season for everyone", in fact they seem mostly lower, by a lot.
Anyway, few remarks

Eric Clapton, should be a 7
Flared, shouldn't be more than a 7
JAMAL, should at least be an 8
Mikes, at least a 7
Trasher, no more than 7

Slum
07-29-2012, 08:35 AM
??? it's overall rating...

and you probably need some 9s and more 8s

yea exactly, i didn't wanna know my overall rating, as i dont warbird/base anymore.

Rasaq
07-29-2012, 09:46 AM
Not every player got drafted in previous years. There was always 50-75 people sitting in waivers. Quit bitching and let this play out. Every time somebody makes changes that they believe will allow everyone to have fun, people start throwing in their opinions to deter the ones in charge. Nothing ever gets done because of that. Then when staff is sitting around "not doing anything" as some of us assume, we bitch about how they're not doing anything to improve the zone.

Ricko
07-29-2012, 10:10 AM
should have done the ratings for each individual ship as usual, this sucks and doesn't really represent peoples abilities in the leagues they focus on (I see some 5s-6s for good wbs who dont touch basing/javs?)

Pressure
07-29-2012, 10:16 AM
should have done the ratings for each individual ship as usual, this sucks and doesn't really represent peoples abilities in the leagues they focus on (I see some 5s-6s for good wbs who dont touch basing/javs?)
The rating shouldn't be an average of your ability in 3 leagues, it should be the rating you got for the league you are best in. TWDT may conceptually be a league to judge someone's overall ability, but their overall ability may only correlate to one league (some people don't practice 2- or 3-league).

There will be people that get drafted strictly for their 1- or 2-league ability, and if this is the case they'll be playing for a cost of 5*-6* when their true worth is at a 7*-8* level. If this is supposed to be a newb friendly league that allows lower *'s the chance to play due to the *-limit-per-game, then why bring good players down to a newb level? The low *s are guys in the 2-5 range, so why are there good players at 5-6 if this is supposed to give newbs playing time?

For strategy, I would much rather have a team full of good 5*'s and 6*'s to consistently meet the * quota than have few, elite high *'s and more very low *'s.

Players are used in a lineup based on what they are worth per game. That is, if someone is a 8*, they are worth 8* for any game that they are added for. Even if they aren't an 8* for warbird, they're expected to play like one. Whereas, if someone is a 4* who really should be worth 6-7 for javelin, you're getting a major steal out of them since they can play for a lower value. Having "steals" in a league is usually fine when it's 1-3 players and they are not widely known to be useful, so that draft strategy comes into play, but when there are a lot of people in this category it defeats the purpose of the draft strategy (but so does the whole "group" thing, but I'm not going into that).

Shaddowknight
07-29-2012, 10:55 AM
group drafting prevents captains from just picking their friends and ignoring the lower ranks
maybe not the best way to do it, but its how its being done right now

perhaps in the future, allows captains a certain number of picks and randomly distribute the lower half

Aura
07-29-2012, 11:06 AM
Team captains will be rewarded for starting players at or under 4*. The requirements for "starting" follow the same guide lines as current TWL medal requirments. TWDT-D/TWDT-J: You must have at least 5 deaths or play a total of 10 minutes to qualify as starting. TWDT-B: You must have played at least 8 minutes to qualify as starting. A player at 4* and under will not only be free, but will subtract * from your weekly spending. A 4* player will give you a -1* star usage. A 3* player will give you a -2* usage. A 2* player will give you a -3* usage. A 1* player will give you a -4* star usage.

Rule change to accommodate newer players. Group draft idea scrapped after a lengthy discussion with about 10 players.

Ricko
07-29-2012, 11:48 AM
pressure :- I can't tell if you're agreeing with me (which seems to be what you've written) or you've mis-understood what I wrote and are counter-arguing my point?

It just seems to me that the twdt ratings given have been selected upon biased views by basing/jav analysts as usual with very little input by warbirds who know their players around tw. Giving basers who don't touch warbird and rarely jav a rating of 7 whereas good warbirds who don't base seem to be given 5-6 rating....?

Pressure
07-29-2012, 12:02 PM
pressure :- I can't tell if you're agreeing with me (which seems to be what you've written) or you've mis-understood what I wrote and are counter-arguing my point?

It just seems to me that the twdt ratings given have been selected upon biased views by basing/jav analysts as usual with very little input by warbirds who know their players around tw. Giving basers who don't touch warbird and rarely jav a rating of 7 whereas good warbirds who don't base seem to be given 5-6 rating....?

I was agreeing.

PrOnEsSim
07-29-2012, 12:07 PM
Seems like theirs lots of basers in this list then other leagues. Lack of warbirds is eh.

megaman89
07-29-2012, 01:44 PM
Willing to show up every sunday for a small fee

Creature
07-29-2012, 08:27 PM
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Creature
07-29-2012, 08:34 PM
This is an appeal of everybody's ranking. Not a joke. This is my contribution to save this season as one of the very few people who actually understand all 3 leagues, plays them, and has run enough squads to know the general aptitude of almost every decent player in the zone.

Please post if you agree. There aren't enough 1, 2, or 3 in general ppl are way to pussy handing out ratings for people who suck and the top tier 7/8 range was way too light before. Not sure on aliases minus a couple,since I haven't been that active but I still hold that these are infinitely better than the real rankings before.

I'll add that my ratings of people who are bad (below 5*) might be a tad inaccurate because honestly at that level most people are just unknown / equally bad.

Basis on rating:
10* = triple league top tier
9* = double league top tier and can sorta play 3rd pretty good
8* = double league top tier and can't play 3rd very well, or three mid-top tier leagues
7* = one league top tier, 2nd league above average
6* = one league above avg or top tier, can't play any other leagues well
5* = mid tier one league
4* = bottom tier one league
3* = plays TWD consistently
2* = logged inbefore and played TWD at least once
1* = you suck at everything or I don't know you, or probably both

Fixed:
24 7
2pacZ 3
7<e$ha 1
ABANDONED 1
Absent 2
AcidBomber 7
adaM 5
AirFinland 1
Aura 5
Bacon 6
beam 5
beast 3
bellflowers 3
blue 2
BOBFLOB 2
bone wagon 3
bong 3
BongHits 4
bugs 3
Burnt 8
Cape 9
Casket 6
Children 6
chknFkr 3
ckpoon 5
cloth 5
COLLOSSUS 2
coogs 1
Creature (can't rate myself)
CrimsonX 6
Crop <ZH> 3
Cross 6
DaBigBomb 2
Deadly 3
Death Adder 3
Deliver 5
DELTA 5
dour 5
Dovah 6 (figured out who this is)
Dominatorious 3
draL <ER> 3
Dreamwin 7
dsb 5
duckrager 2
Dutch Baser 6
Ease 10
eel 5
End <ER> 6
Epok 5
eRach 4
Eria 5
Eric Clapton 6
Esau 4
euforia 6
evil Broccoli 3
Excaliburr 3
Executed 4
F22 Raptor 5
fakiiri 2
fiS 4
Flared 8
Flockaveli 2
Fork 5
Frogsk|n 1
Gazo 5
Geio 7
Goddamnit 4
godZero 4
Golden Sun 1 5
goth hooker 1
Grandias 3
Guero 6
Haut 4
Heisman 5
hermit 7
hulk 6
HUNT 7
Hydride <ZH 4
idk&idc 4
iNfRaReD 7
Iron Survivor 7
JAMAL 9
Jaws 4
jerome 5
Jizzron Philips 3
KATC <ER 3
Kate Upton 5
Kira_yamato 6
Kosmonaut 4
KrynetiX 3
Lamedfighter 1
Lena 4
linair 2
LofTy 6
lOpist 4
LordGore 3
Luger 4
Luke Likesheet 2
M_M God 8
Major Crisis 6
Maketso 8
Mango 4
mcvicar 5
miDoeNT 5
Mikes 6
Mikkiz 6
misled 6
Mobey 5
Mossad 2
Mr. Solo Dolo 7 (engineers aliased right?)
Mummy 3
Murder 7
Murp 3
Nao 5
NL>Trigger 6
nokkonen 6
num1killa 5
o)-<| 1
O'6-Quantum 2
Obi 5
oldE 4
omega red 5
Overheat 6 (updated cause i figured out who this is...fkin aliasers)
Paky Dude 6
Paradise <ZH> 5
pee pee sock 4
penacyber 1
Phil Ivey 4
Phreek 4
PhyRe 4
Postman Pat 3
Poutine 2
Poxy 6
Pressure 6
Producer 5
Proximo 5
Psymorph 6
Quart 5
Raazi 6
RageRitual 5
raizin 5
Raples 8
Rebirth 6
Reckful 5
Red Desert 1
RednaZ 7
ReNdErED 6
resurrected 5
Ricko 7
rodney 5
Rucci 6
Ryuken 3
Saving 5
SCHOPE <ER> 7
Shaddow <ZH> 3
shadezer 5
shayde 7
Shin-Ra 5
Shreddar 3
siaxis 6
sieni 5
SilverBlue 2
skatarius 6
skillio 4
Sludge 4
Slum 4
Spacely 4
SquallFF8 6
Stayon 8
Steep 4
sulfur 4
TABARNAK 6
Tankard 4 (alias?)
Thalia 3
TheWadoRooster 2
Ticklepotamous 3 (alias?)
TiduZ 7
Tiny 7
tj Hazuki 5
trance 4
Trasher 7
turban 8
UnderCuT 5
vAped 3
Vash 6
Vatican Assassin 6
Vehicle 5
Versa 5
Violence 6
Vulcan 4
Warlord 4
wbm 6
Weak 7
weedle 1
Welt 6
Whinegum 4
Whopper 4
Wicket666 4
Wiibimbo 3
WillBy 3
william wallis 5
WingZero 6
wobbuffet 1
yami 4
yeezy 4
Zagis 5
Zazerick 6
Zidane 8
Zintage 2
Zizzo 6
Zyclon 6
cust 1
wagon 3
megaman89 10
renzi 7
Mattey 7
Adj 1
Apok 8
Supreme Authority 6
Cintra 6
Fermata 6
Kornflakes 5
Kyle Hester 3
Liz 4
Spacepimp 6
the_paul 5
Zeebu 6
PeeJay 4
solacer 6
disown 4
Forces 6
Duke 2
Hi 2
kute 2
Johnny Rico 1
Evildeed 7
Cherrytree 6 (i think this guy is alias but not sure?)
Cig <ER> 6

Creature
07-29-2012, 08:38 PM
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Creature
07-29-2012, 08:39 PM
Deleted. Fixed posts and summarized to one - thanks for tips Reckful on how to edit...stupid edit button is broken :(

Reckful
07-29-2012, 10:20 PM
you have to click go advanced to edit posts these days

mtine
07-30-2012, 06:22 AM
I went positive last TWDTD for LemonTree, play 3-5 dds per day and you wud give me a 2 star? Get real, Creature.

Aura
07-30-2012, 09:05 AM
I went positive last TWDTD for LemonTree, play 3-5 dds per day and you wud give me a 2 star? Get real, Creature.

He factored in your 0* irl score.

Creature
07-30-2012, 10:56 AM
I went positive last TWDTD for LemonTree, play 3-5 dds per day and you wud give me a 2 star? Get real, Creature.

So you got lucky in TWDTD one time and you can average 1:1 ratio in wb vs trash squads, 0.5 ratio in jav, and haven't played base ever. Bumped you up to a 3* out of pure niceness. Using the AVERAGE rating I look at you and see you as 4* in wb, 1* jav, 1* base so honestly a 2* isn't that far off. Get real when you get good. Thanks.

Made some edits, updates, and adjustments to my ratings after a night to reconsider some people.

Zeebu
07-30-2012, 11:02 AM
im a 1* player and a 10* mascot

Supreme
07-30-2012, 02:25 PM
Im a 4 at best, change me back

PrOnEsSim
07-30-2012, 04:07 PM
I appeal bellflowers ranking to 3*

Godzero
07-31-2012, 02:49 PM
Elitists.

... that is all.

mtine
08-01-2012, 08:11 AM
Don't let me even start with u, Aura. If I did, you wud be playing WoW right now. So shut ur fuking ugly cunt, ass <ER>.

schope
08-01-2012, 11:15 AM
think you guys should have a 3 league rating.

so people that is good at one league and ok at other one wont get to play at both considering star costs :(

i also demand to get ranked 3 stars again as i was in last twdt

Shaddowknight
08-01-2012, 12:14 PM
if you play two divisons, your team's weekly star cap only counts your rating once

Steep
08-02-2012, 04:59 AM
Don't let me even start with u, Aura. If I did, you wud be playing WoW right now. So shut ur fuking ugly cunt, ass <ER>.

werent you supposed to stop these? annoying

mtine
08-04-2012, 08:33 AM
You don't even know what happened, Steep, so don't start, plz.

Jerome Scuggs
08-04-2012, 10:36 AM
wow? you raised me from 3* to 5*? you realize my only competitive factor in draft leagues is that i'm an underrated player who can put up decent stats for a newbie's rating. now i'm not going to be picked at all when there are way more consistent 5* players. not that i was gonna show up anyways but i'm still pissed.

Aura
08-04-2012, 10:49 AM
jerome, you are a 3*. wat r u talking about? LOL

Slum
08-05-2012, 05:48 PM
LOL JEROME ON SOME PMT SHIT

Jerome Scuggs
08-06-2012, 08:26 AM
jerome, you are a 3*. wat r u talking about? LOL

oh shit i read creat's ratings as yours because in a thread called "twdt ratings" i expected there to be a post showing twdt ratings so i went to the post that had ratings of people who have signed up for twdt

Havoc_777
08-19-2012, 03:28 PM
You get 3*s just for having an account it seems.

-Grom

fakiiri
08-22-2012, 08:23 AM
Wohoo! i got "2" , development