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Claushouse
07-01-2014, 12:11 AM
I've compiled a cheat sheet for captains, ops, players to quickly look and determine every player's star level, separated by league, for each team.


TWDT-D:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qyS4-GYWSf_AUiOMODT5B1ViaH9hFczAYQBpGRFs43Y/edit?usp=sharing

TWDT-J:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QqzEhHBOuVBjdRQUCqUCAm2xiyS9pe7S9t6NbNRSCSw/edit?usp=sharing

TWDT-B:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XfX8yFgf3pPy6hPfbUtAo_D8RmEM_ETnWpYZ2uHA1fI/edit?usp=sharing

Pressure
07-01-2014, 01:57 PM
huge props thank you

but...why...per...
07-01-2014, 03:17 PM
Thanks for this, it should help speed things up when checking rosters for 5 and 6 stars.

mean gene
07-03-2014, 02:03 PM
zid is a nine in base? lolololol

zidane
07-03-2014, 02:42 PM
lol agreed i should be a 10. only legends can break the tek record in lb finals while playing with massive glare

anti-lev propaganda
07-06-2014, 04:40 PM
I've compiled a cheat sheet for captains, ops, players to quickly look and determine every player's star level, separated by league, for each team.


TWDT-D:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qyS4-GYWSf_AUiOMODT5B1ViaH9hFczAYQBpGRFs43Y/edit?usp=sharing

TWDT-J:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QqzEhHBOuVBjdRQUCqUCAm2xiyS9pe7S9t6NbNRSCSw/edit?usp=sharing

TWDT-B:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XfX8yFgf3pPy6hPfbUtAo_D8RmEM_ETnWpYZ2uHA1fI/edit?usp=sharing

Good deal. Although as a 5* ("a lame ass macro"), I'm curious how the notification works about benching and being subbed/etc, and how we know as a player how that works. Example, if I show up a week, and I'm not needed by my team, how does that work, and how can I know that the proper procedure has been followed? That way it's fair for everyone.

Just asking since I'm new to this - never played a league, and sort of wanting to see what it's like, but if we have enough 5*s showing up, I know I wouldn't get picked.

Claushouse
07-06-2014, 05:10 PM
As per requested by host mods, I've added Captains and Assistants to all 3 cheat sheets.

Raver420
07-06-2014, 10:28 PM
http://i62.tinypic.com/307yxqs.jpg

anti-lev propaganda
07-09-2014, 12:29 AM
As per requested by host mods, I've added Captains and Assistants to all 3 cheat sheets.

This is good, but I don't know if it answered my original question. I can take it off-this-thread of need be.

field
07-09-2014, 02:55 AM
This is good, but I don't know if it answered my original question. I can take it off-this-thread of need be.

Claus didn't answer your question.

Any subbed player must meet the TWDT rules. That means, 1 5* and 1 6* must be in the game (unless eliminated) at all times (in TWDT-D and TWDT-J), and 1 5* and 2 6* must be in the game at all times (in TWDT-B). So you can't add a 5*/6* then sub them out for a 7*/8*/9*/10*.

Zeebu
07-09-2014, 07:08 AM
i dont think he was asking that either... if im understanding it:

if your team currently has a 5* player in a league that shows every week and is capable, the captain has no current incentive to play a different 5* in that league beyond just wanting to give experience to other players. That cap can then report to the powers that be that he has extras, but there really isnt anything forcing him to play other 5* players if hes already got one that shows and he likes.

as far as the subbing rules go, i think its already been answered. you can only sub a 6* with a 5* or a 6* and you can only sub a 5* with another 5*

was that what you were asking?

Zeebu
07-09-2014, 07:12 AM
in addition, i see no good way to fix that this season. there are clearly better and more capable 5* players than others. just the way it is. if there were designations that also went for 1-4*s you could identify those individuals, but right now the system in place wouldnt know what to do with them. the system we have now is basically a 1/2/3 system. for the dueling events you need a level 1 player and a level 2 player or at least two level 1 players to have a legal line. in base its the same thing except you must play at least two level 2 players and one level 1. the 1s are the 5* players with the 2s being 6* players. 3s are just anyone rated 7 or above.

ffe
07-09-2014, 07:24 AM
Good deal. Although as a 5* ("a lame ass macro"), I'm curious how the notification works about benching and being subbed/etc, and how we know as a player how that works. Example, if I show up a week, and I'm not needed by my team, how does that work, and how can I know that the proper procedure has been followed? That way it's fair for everyone.

Just asking since I'm new to this - never played a league, and sort of wanting to see what it's like, but if we have enough 5*s showing up, I know I wouldn't get picked.

Here's my interpretation of your question's answer:

The only way to know whether or not the proper procedure (ie. that one 6* and 5* for DTJ AND DTD and 2 6* and 1 5* for DTB) is being followed, is
1) Check the player ratings of every player that has been added in the match
2) Wait for the possibility of staff intervention during / after the match, which may result from not following said procedure

Secondly, I apologize if this is not true, but I remember reading somewhere in the preliminary TWDT threads this year that Claus offered to find a replacement team for any (5* or 6*) player that shows every week and gets consistently benched.

Hope that helps.

but...why...per...
07-09-2014, 08:51 AM
anti-lev, at least 1 5* must be played every match, if the team already has another 5* available and the cap constantly chooses them to play then you can be made available to any team that does not have a 5* present (except for the team you are facing that match). So far, most teams have had at least 1 5* online for each match.
At each time slot there are 4 matches to be played, so a minimum of 8 5* should be playing, though in each league there are at least 30 5* rated players.

If you are turning up each match and not being played you can request to be moved to a different team, if you and claushouse feel you would see more game play. However please do keep in mind that there are usually more than a dozen 5* players online and only 8 are likely to be played, so even transferring you still may not get a chance to play.

but...why...per...
07-09-2014, 10:52 AM
I counted 72 5* warbirds, 85 5* javelins and 85 5* basers, even if a only a quarter of these show there will still be some that probably won't get to play.

Ricko
07-09-2014, 11:54 AM
maybe for next season we need more teams then to allow more 5* and 6* people to play?

anti-lev propaganda
07-09-2014, 01:05 PM
Thanks for the answers all.

I was mainly wanting to make sure that if I had been benched, that I knew that my captain had done what he was supposed to. I don't think there was any way of finding that out, so I didn't want to try to say "hey let me go to another team", especially since it's only been one match, and given the percentages and 5*s showing up, that it's likely there are more than enough people.

I think it's a tough problem for some: you want to get more people in the matches, but also you want to win, so you can run the risk of over time becoming cliquey. In my teams case, that isn't the case - I for example have only been able to show up for one base match out of all things the last two weeks, but hope to show up for more wb/basing. Javs... meh.

But since this tourney is to promote people getting more playtime, or getting a chance at it, I just wanted to see what steps were being taken for that.

I've responded to a later post which may have an idea on how to allow more people to play, but I don't think people would like it.

anti-lev propaganda
07-09-2014, 01:07 PM
in addition, i see no good way to fix that this season. there are clearly better and more capable 5* players than others. just the way it is. if there were designations that also went for 1-4*s you could identify those individuals, but right now the system in place wouldnt know what to do with them. the system we have now is basically a 1/2/3 system. for the dueling events you need a level 1 player and a level 2 player or at least two level 1 players to have a legal line. in base its the same thing except you must play at least two level 2 players and one level 1. the 1s are the 5* players with the 2s being 6* players. 3s are just anyone rated 7 or above.

See my one post. If you force a rotation among the people in the 5* package (i.e. everybody in the package who shows over the reg season gets to play at least once), that may help.

And definetly see your point on skill levels. Frx, I can't jav at all, but at least feel a bit more confident in wb, and I would like to base. But you need to get different people in the mix - a good idea for next year.

anti-lev propaganda
07-09-2014, 01:11 PM
maybe for next season we need more teams then to allow more 5* and 6* people to play?

That's a start.

One thing would be to possibly force a rotation among the members of the package over the course of the season. i.e. you draft a 5* package, and if a person is benched twice, you must play that person sometime in the regular season before the playoffs. This may help get some 5*s a bit of playtime, but still keep things relatively free for the caps to use people to make the postseason.

Claushouse
07-24-2014, 07:44 PM
After speaking with several captains, and looking over sets of new bds, I'm lowering auto to a 6 in base. There have been a lot more games like this (http://twd.trenchwars.org/showgame/90079366) than this (http://twd.trenchwars.org/showgame/90079160), and watching him play he's still rough around the edges, even though he should be really good in a few months. Also he was benched as a 7, and as a new player would like to see him get more experience, even though I think 7 is a fair rating, there are a few strong 6s (el pedo, wado, warportal) who are still stronger.