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Seize
08-06-2002, 10:20 AM
wtf? Banning someone on the basis of lag-cheating is ridiculous, some ppl lag that badly without cheating and they arent banned. In my opinion if you want to ban ppl for lag-cheating BAN 2DRAGONS!!!!

if they want to stop this the solution is simple: tighten the restrictions on permissible LAG in TW.


its stupid to say to someone: your normal ping is 100, when you open KaZaa it goes up to 250, THAT IS CHEATING your normal ping is the one you should stick to. WHAT THE HELL?? does this sound ridiculous to any1 else?


While someone who normally has a ping of 250 can play without any problems.

THAT IS BY FAR THE GAYEST THING I'vE EVER HEARD.

if you want to ban people who lag cheat, ban every1 that lags because in my opinion people who have a bad lag naturally have the same advantage as someone who "lag cheats"

the banning of eRad for using KaZaa is in my opinion RIDICULOUS


TIGHTEN THE LAG RESTRICTIONS AND STOP ABUSING OF YOUR BAN POWERS FFS

Th@ KiLL@
08-06-2002, 12:36 PM
i once was downloading a few demo's and i could play elim.
so i thought why not.
im flying...here..to there...dont see any blue dots on the radar....
so i was d/c a few minutez, i reconnect....I WAS BANNED...That truly sucked. i sended dantax a messaged he said no u lag cheated, u hacked in the system.
I dont even know how to hack, dud...

i got banned for 1 fucking week

Seize
08-06-2002, 12:42 PM
it is ridiculous these days where the abuse of power by TW staff is out of control, banning people for running programs or downloading while playing? I MEAN WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!!!!1

WOW am I ever pissed at eRad being banned for that!

am I the only one that feels that this has gone too far.


LAG RESTRICTIONS FFS
LAG RESTRICTIONS FFS
LAG RESTRICTIONS FFS
LAG RESTRICTIONS FFS
LAG RESTRICTIONS FFS

Bolt
08-06-2002, 01:41 PM
Using KaZaA to boost your ping is just as bad as using lagtronic, so I'm not quite sure on how I stand on banning people for it. I do agree with strengthening lag restrictions, as that would minimize their ability to play while using KaZaA.

Troll King
08-06-2002, 02:01 PM
The issue is the intentional increase of lag to create an advantage. Your arguments hold no moral standing.

Jason
08-06-2002, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by Troll King
The issue is the intentional increase of lag to create an advantage. Your arguments hold no moral standing. 'Nuff said. Close this topic and end the stupidity please.

Annux
08-06-2002, 05:27 PM
Holy shit, people just aren't creative with excuses anymore.



"YAH I OPENED PROGRAM AND CREATED LAG WITH IT 'CUZ I WANTED TO GET 7-10 IN ELIM, BUT THAT PROGRAM WAS MADE FOR EXCHANGING MIDGET PORN NOT CHEATING. JUST CUZ I CHEATED WITH IT DOESNT MEAN IM BAD BECAUSE I ONLY LIKE MIDGETS AND MIDGET PORN AND I DOWNLOAD MIDGET PORN AND PLAY ELIMINATION GOOD."

What happened to the "No, no I didn't cheat! My brother was on my name, I swear!"

Th@ KiLL@
08-06-2002, 06:15 PM
lol sure annux sure

Adman
08-06-2002, 06:33 PM
?buy broadband

Th@ KiLL@
08-06-2002, 07:06 PM
i have dsl broadband 64/kb per sec so stfu :p

Seize
08-06-2002, 10:29 PM
uhhhh... my point is that some ppl have the same lag as someone using KaZaa and dont get in trouble. Therefore using KaZaa DOES NOT FUCKING GIVE YOU AN ADVANTAGE OVER OTHER USERS. AND THEREFORE DOES NOT QUALIFY THE REQUIREMENTS FOR CHEATING!!!!

ffs ure all new

Troll King
08-06-2002, 10:49 PM
It does qualify as cheating because it affects one's connection in a favourable manner. It gives someone an advantage over people who had the same original lag before using Kazaa, so it DOES give advantage over other users.

The issue is the intentional artificial creation of lag to enahnce one's chances. It's exactly same thing as doing what you wrote about in the Supposedly Cheating thread. That method can give you more lag, but you can also argue that someone out there is playing with the same lag you had created. That argument would be as pointless there as it is here.

Dim
08-07-2002, 01:34 AM
I don't see why nearly everyone has broadband its only say 10 more expensive that Freeserve Anytime, you can stay connected all day, and have a low ping.


Originally posted by Adman
?buy broadband

NaiLed
08-07-2002, 06:59 AM
Originally posted by Adman
?buy broadband

?buy broadband
Broadband is not currently available is your area.

Server
08-07-2002, 07:32 AM
This is actually funny.

If someone is downloading something and gets 250ms ping...
While someone plays normally with 250ms ping...

the downloader gets banned? ok now i wish i would run staff. I would personally ban ppl for life who ban for that reason. There's a solution here... *cough*laglimit*cough*

Geez i only get ping 40ms when i download :(

Seize
08-07-2002, 08:11 AM
BTW, i was banned yesterday for making cheater calls to Dark! who is the person who banned eRad for using KaZaa.

I was reporting his abuse

Adman
08-07-2002, 08:19 AM
LOL, i can download like5 mp3 and talk on MSn and ICQ and no lag more than usual in TW, this is nuts.

i ahve also played diablo2 on b.net and had continuum open and used ?lag and it was no higher than usual.

Is my cable company good? Yes, but they are fucking expensive.

EDIT: if you don't want lag, don't use the internet or if you do spend the money and get a good connection, i mean it's not that expensive. I pay for it myself.

Troll King
08-07-2002, 10:52 AM
This is hardly a case of "abuse of powers".


It seems that whenever someone in staff does something you disagree with, it's called abuse. Even when they were right.

2dragons
08-07-2002, 04:32 PM
As Troll has nicely pointed out 2 times:

When someone intentionally trys to create lag (of course in hopes to get an advantage) regardless if it worked for them personally, that is cheating.

There is no further discussion needed.

Louis XV
08-07-2002, 07:09 PM
Who the hell would want to increase their ping to 250? I have a steady 250 on my 56k and lag is virtually unnoticeable. That's no biggie. I'd say anything above 300 is laggy. Anyway, there's a difference between normally having 250 ms and intentionally stuffing up your bandwidth to increase your ping to 250 ms. A very distinguishable difference.

At any rate, about staff banning for lag cheating: ITS ABOUT FUCKING TIME. People have been doing this so much and for so long, as it's always been impossible to detect or differentiate between "laggers" and "lagg0ts". Running a program to intentionally increase your lag = cheating. GREAT GAME! -ABSOLUTELY NO TEXT IN BETWEEN THESE HYPHENS-

Mattey
08-11-2002, 01:53 AM
Originally posted by 2dragons
As Troll has nicely pointed out 2 times:

When someone intentionally trys to create lag (of course in hopes to get an advantage) regardless if it worked for them personally, that is cheating.

There is no further discussion needed.

That was pretty slick heading the argument off before it came to the ridiculous amount of lag allowed in TWLB and how it takes no skill to be a laggy ass jav that can not be killed or rep... yes very slick indeed.

Verthanthi
08-11-2002, 02:12 AM
Originally posted by Mattey


That was pretty slick heading the argument off before it came to the ridiculous amount of lag allowed in TWLB and how it takes no skill to be a laggy ass jav that can not be killed or rep... yes very slick indeed.

Yes I agree, and I am quite irate. I mean, this forum doesn't have enough "Bitch about the TWL lag" and "Geewhiz but I hate 2dragons" threads. Lets turn this thread into one, too!

Annux
08-11-2002, 09:30 AM
I HATE TWL LAG, AND 2DRAGONS AKA AUSTIN BARTON IS HATED BY ME, GEEWHIZ.

Witness
08-11-2002, 06:08 PM
Crap i wish i didnt lag but the best i can ever have is around 300ms, usually runs around 330ms, no cable, no dsl, no nothing but a dish connection and those are just as bad az a phone connection except for download part. And yes iv been thru 3 different providers just to get it 2 300ms. All as i can do is wait for a cableprovider, and who knows how long thatll be.

Witness ps. Dont move to Michigan.

Isreal
08-11-2002, 06:30 PM
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Originally posted by Witness
Crap i wish i didnt lag but the best i can ever have is around 300ms, usually runs around 330ms, no cable, no dsl, no nothing but a dish connection and those are just as bad az a phone connection except for download part. And yes iv been thru 3 different providers just to get it 2 300ms. All as i can do is wait for a cableprovider, and who knows how long thatll be.

Witness ps. Dont move to Michigan.

im waiting untill 2003 for the dish :/

Isreal ps. Dont move to kibbuts Dalia

Unownable
08-11-2002, 07:20 PM
GOD HELP ME... I agree with Annux

Annux
08-11-2002, 10:07 PM
Does this forum have a staff anymore? Or do they just not know that Seize is Unownable?

Mayo Inc.
08-11-2002, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by Unownable
GOD HELP ME... I agree with Annux

hi Sieze