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Thors
10-09-2003, 10:12 AM
Moderator Warning: Dont No TeamKill -Disqualifier

I get the warning and I am still javing
There is a Terr With A couple Levi's attached and its coming for base and there is a friendly shark near by.
I shoot to Kill the terr and terr warps and my bobm kills friendly shark.

Warning: Disconnected From Server


Ban Id # 5475

Dim
10-09-2003, 10:13 AM
1) Please use real logs.
2) If this is a complaint about the staffer, then it won't be discussed here, but feel free to email: complaints@trenchwars.org
3) If this is a ban complaint email the bans email (i forgot)
4) If this is both do both.
5) If this is an attention seeking excercise gtfo :D

Thors
10-09-2003, 10:21 AM
Dimboy man ur cool but boot Disq man all he wants to do is bann someone for the first time in his live.

Disqualifier
10-09-2003, 11:26 AM
Heh, thanks for making me laugh. :)
I could use the real log here as Thors threatened to email Weaver, which I hope he does, so I took a log of the conversation.
But the log is boring, and what does it change?
Anyways, thanks

Tigerex
10-09-2003, 12:37 PM
Added to the fact that staff will rarely act on a log proving one of their own to have made a mistake as it undermines public confidence in staff so instead they can claim that a log is insignificant evidence of any offence as they can be forged.

Although in this case you more than likely deserved to be banned if you can't be careful even after being warned then you don't deserve to jav.

Oh and Btw how can a log show if someone was teamkilling or not. :cool:

Dim
10-09-2003, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by Tigerex
Oh and Btw how can a log show if someone was teamkilling or not. :cool:

Kill messages to chat.

Stabwound
10-09-2003, 12:53 PM
Like someone who is trying to prove that they are innocent of accidently TK'ing is going to post a log with kill messages to chat.

Fit of Rage
10-09-2003, 02:39 PM
Disq said he had the log as well (a real one I'm assuming).

Zerzera
10-09-2003, 02:52 PM
1. You got warned for teamkilling
2. You stay in a ship with bombs
3. You teamkill again (You already got warned so you probably teamkilled too much already)
4. You get banned

Doesn't really matter if you teamkilled on purpose the last kill, you already got warned for teamkilling.

Thors
10-09-2003, 02:55 PM
they were enemys there ffs did u not want me to shoot...i switched to spider after i ACCIDENTALY tked.

destruct
10-09-2003, 03:16 PM
Does this have anything to do with the TW staff?
Use the Ban ID you have to get yourself out then
Talking about it here doesn't help does it ? :p
Anyways, just be careful.. and the world would be peaceful :D
Peace Out
-destruct

Jason
10-09-2003, 04:40 PM
Whining pussy.

Tigerex
10-09-2003, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by dimboy2
Kill messages to chat.

Kill messages to chat shows which guys are on your team also? :rolleyes:

ConcreteSchlyrd
10-09-2003, 05:23 PM
The real joke here is that I bet this was like a one or two-day ban. Shit, the ban's probably over already.

Black Alpha
10-09-2003, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by Tigerex
Kill messages to chat shows which guys are on your team also? :rolleyes:

no, but if you check the bounty of the guy it'll be 0 if it's a tk. trouble is that can also be spawns...

Material Girl
10-09-2003, 08:41 PM
You know, this is completely off topic, but I can't understand how Jason's avatar is accepted on a forum where porn and socially disturbing scatological allusions are normally deleated. Nothing personal Jason, but damn!!! Is this really necessary? :confused:

Cig Smoke
10-09-2003, 09:12 PM
on a side note complaining about bann to the email adress is pretty much useless..bc it all comes out the same..."we are looking into it" well 5 days later when ur bann is up u never heard what they looked into or what they found...and if they found nething when u ask they mite tell u that staff was wrong or something but u still hadda serve the bann b4 it was recognized

Jason
10-10-2003, 01:21 AM
Hey MG, care for some baby juice?

It's a fucking cartoon, a pixellated cartoon at that. Grow up.

Emaho
10-10-2003, 03:11 AM
MG..
A tip: Don't ever tell or suggest Jason what to do.. You can't change what he really are... But i'm sure he is a nice gay.. opps.. guy inside.. jk jason.

cundor
10-10-2003, 03:33 AM
yeah, like weaver and yomama!!! read forums...geez

Tigerex
10-10-2003, 04:02 AM
i know weaver does he just never replies unless its worth it. And this is not worth it

Jason
10-10-2003, 05:14 AM
Does mama still run that dating service/porn site/whatever the fuck it was?

Jason
10-10-2003, 05:44 AM
Oh yeah, not that your whining really got to me MG, but I find this new avatar even funnier.

Zerzera
10-10-2003, 05:50 AM
Now don't say Jason doesn't listen to reason!

Thors
10-10-2003, 07:58 AM
I feel that there should be no reason for TKing acidentaly then bann me ffs

Zerzera
10-10-2003, 08:24 AM
You will never get banned for one accidently teamkill. But as stated before:
- You needed at least one teamkill to get reported (most people don't report after first teamkill unless it was so dumb it looked like a hundred percent attempt to teamkill)

- Then a moderator came to spec you and you commited at least your second teamkill, so you got warned.

At this point you should know better and lay low. It's ok if you can't handle your ship-with-bombs, but then go practice somewhere private so you don't upset other players.. But yet you choose to jump back in the javelin with all the risks involved.

- The moderator now sees you as a teamkiller, wich in fact you are, and therefor has to monitor to see if you learned your lesson or at least show good will. Since you changed back to javelin you look like you ignore the moderators warning and didn't learn. So he keeps watching you till your next mistake.

- Being still watched, can't be that long, moderators don't stay to watch you for ages... You tried to kill a levterrier but failed and hit your team shark. With 0 credits left you commited another teamkill; that you don't do it on purpose doesn't make it better, you already crossed the line.
(I killed my wife but I didn't do it on purpose! You can't put me in jail!)

You are not the first person to get banned like this, and you won't be the last either. You just didn't play by the rules, (Read the second rule of the commandments of Trench Wars) and got the penalty that comes with that. Your ban includes information how to deal with unjust bans, I suggest you follow those.
If you are looking for support try to get it on another subject.

Ephemeral
10-10-2003, 09:36 AM
I agree

Thors
10-11-2003, 12:26 PM
Good Point Thanks

-Thors

Vehicle
10-11-2003, 06:27 PM
I got banned for 1 tk, a 7 day ban too, with no warning. So don't say that. :) (o, and mama was the person who banned me too :p)

Dim
10-12-2003, 03:46 AM
Originally posted by Under Dog
I got banned for 1 tk, a 7 day ban too, with no warning. So don't say that. :) (o, and mama was the person who banned me too :p)

Farmer did that to me once, he is evil!

Cig Smoke
10-12-2003, 06:12 AM
I got an 8-fer Tk once w/ a levi as Erathia warned me then i was banned :<

Gencore
10-12-2003, 07:22 AM
has anyone of u ever been banned for killing some1 who was in a safe zone? this is not in TW btw

Jason
10-12-2003, 09:27 AM
I used to get banned in DSB all the time for camping in the no kill zone or whatever the fuck it's called. You can rack up quite the rec before getting caught if you're careful about it.

DoTheFandango
10-12-2003, 10:47 AM
DBZ=Deadly BallKilling Zone

Direct
10-13-2003, 02:31 PM
hmmm the warning said Don't no teamkill?
hahahhahahahhahahahah
Disq goto english class

ZeUs!!
10-13-2003, 04:31 PM
'goto' isn't a word

Direct
10-13-2003, 06:15 PM
:mad: ! good point zeus ;)

Verthanthi
10-13-2003, 06:18 PM
Zeus is showing off his lack of programming knowledge.

Zerzera
10-14-2003, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by Verthanthi
Zeus is showing off his lack of programming knowledge.

Every time Zeus speaks he shows lack of something :p

Ara
10-15-2003, 04:41 PM
Disq, Sika and Incog all suck (not sure about incog) at english, it's
quite funny really, that's why they don't usually talk in pub chats.
And they were all from the same school, wonder what the quality
of teachers was like there.. ;)

syzygy
10-15-2003, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by Zerzera
Every time Zeus speaks he shows lack of something :p

i'm glad someone said it before me

IceStorm
10-15-2003, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by dimboy2
1) Please use real logs.
2) If this is a complaint about the staffer, then it won't be discussed here, but feel free to email: complaints@trenchwars.org


I suggest you should just email it to complaints@trenchwars.org like dimmy said. And suck it up....
I'm sick of these people who go around killing teammates then get banned and whine about it saying they didnt do shit. Trust me ive done it and seen it. It's so pathetic... If your that bored atleast put ur effort into not looking that a total idiot/ Newb. Mods REALLY dont have time for any more of these little idiot stunts. If it looks like u tked someone on purpose your gone no questions asked. If you dont know how to shoot threw a fricken hole then dont do it. Get in a Warbird or spider.. Which doesnt have bombs.. Or PRACTICE.. And make sure you say sorry if you do tk or that will just make the person u tked report you or the mod whatching u think u ment to do it...

Awesome
10-15-2003, 10:41 PM
Originally posted by IceStorm
Mods REALLY dont have time for any more of these little idiot stunts. Mods do have the time, if they dont, they should resign... and if they dont resign and dont make the time, they will get fired for not doing anything.

and you really aren't a mod (or an <ER> w/BanG) so i dont see why you are sick of it after 1 month of zh'ing

ps[1]: i am sick of people who use the font formatting tags so meaninglessly
ps[2]: yes, i mean you ICE STORM

genocidal
10-15-2003, 11:46 PM
Originally posted by IceStorm

I suggest you should just email it to complaints@trenchwars.org like dimmy said. And suck it up....
I'm sick of these people who go around killing teammates then get banned and whine about it saying they didnt do shit. Trust me ive done it and seen it. It's so pathetic... If your that bored atleast put ur effort into not looking that a total idiot/ Newb. Mods REALLY dont have time for any more of these little idiot stunts. If it looks like u tked someone on purpose your gone no questions asked. If you dont know how to shoot threw a fricken hole then dont do it. Get in a Warbird or spider.. Which doesnt have bombs.. Or PRACTICE.. And make sure you say sorry if you do tk or that will just make the person u tked report you or the mod whatching u think u ment to do it...


the way in which you express thoughts is immature frankly it's very irritating. also it is a mod's job (especially when a ban is involved) to investigate what happens...ban crazy mods are never what a zone needs to have. on the flip side, if it is a bunch of guys who know what they're doing and are just fucking around with staff and a mod knows it then it is probably more justified to end it with a quick ban than try to sift through a load of shit that the mod will get.

Tigerex
10-16-2003, 03:39 AM
I just find it amusing that all staffers sit there and say "Stop posting these complaining threads" but you all seem to assume that the people complaining have no right to complain. Try being a bit open minded and being fair when judging if someone has the right to complain no matter how they go about doing it. I think the staff intolerance for complaints indicates the very egotistical nature of staff itself, "Anyone who complains is a trouble maker so don't complain even when unfairly treated" or staff will victimise you in game for the rest of your time in TW. And you speak of maturity?

ZeUs!!
10-16-2003, 05:11 AM
The point isnt the validity of the claim but rather people are using the forums to lodge a complaint instead of the email address.

Tigerex
10-16-2003, 06:32 AM
Maybe because when you use the complaints e-mail you get no reply even if something is done leading to the belief that everything is ignored. Complaints e-mails arn't ignored and i know that some things have happened as a result of e-mails i have or friends have written but still with no correspondence does make people think that there is no point.

I don't know how many e-mails a day the complaints line gets but if its not too many then maybe replying would be a cool idea.

ZeUs!!
10-16-2003, 07:29 AM
Theres nothing I can do about the speed of reply from the complaints mail, but everyone with a valid complaint gets a response.


Originally posted by Zerzera
Every time Zeus speaks he shows lack of something :p Consideration?

Emaho
10-16-2003, 07:44 AM
Originally posted by ZeUs!!
Theres nothing I can do about the speed of reply from the complaints mail, but everyone with a valid complaint gets a response.


You get banned alot? :p

Tigerex
10-16-2003, 11:21 AM
After i left staff i made a complaint about certain actions of staff members, I was still on the TWmods Yahoo group at this time despite having not been staff for a few weeks (which was really starting to bug me). But Weaver obviously saw my complaint and wrote a strongly worded e-mail to the Twmods yahoo group and i later thanked him for his serious consideration (about a week later). However i never did get an e-mail response and never have from any other complaints that have been dealt with, i know this applies for other guys too. So not EVERY complaints e-mail gets a response even if it is valid i guess.

Diakka
10-30-2003, 09:20 PM
O looks like this post is turning into trash talking!!!! Woo Hoo!!!

You mama is so fat!!! When she went for a 3 mile walk!!!! She took 2 steps...1 forward, 1 back!!!

Made up by me, kinda lame but I know it made Zerzera giggle.

Miku19
10-31-2003, 04:51 AM
Typing in small size is just a way of getting attention. An annoying way... Why tk in pub when you can do it in ?go base without anybody actually doing anything about it? ;)

Cig Smoke
11-01-2003, 01:11 AM
Tiger ur forgeting by complaining here it also lets the public know how things when down not just the upper staff..so if it happens to someone else by the same mod/smod/er/zh they will know it isnt a simple mistake but its a simple habbit