Why cant you get staff active? Is it so hard to recruit ppl for finnish time too?

[Server]

-nt-

[cundor]

Another cry to get in staff <laff!>

[Server]

i dont care as long as finnish ppl get some of staffers too..
i've been there already.. sure i would like to get back tho maybe.. but all i want is some staffers for my time too

[Cig Smoke]

he's rite ther isnt many staffers for finland's time. A few yes and they are usualy very active but not enuff in my mind.

[cundor]

But I mean: the general language is English...what different would it make?

[PredatoR_FNM]

Well there is one, and hes hosting often when im soon out from univ, he goes under the name Lynx <ER>.

So, basicly hes doing gj now :)

[Mr. Peanuts]

Originally posted by cundor
But I mean: the general language is English...what different would it make? hes talking about the time zones

[Ephemeral]

There is only one thing that would cause me to quit TW forever, and that would be if Server was put on Staff.

[Mayo Inc.]

gencore4staff

[cundor]

Finland should make its own game

[Mr. Peanuts]

well the TW servers used to be in finland

used to get great ping off them but now i dont play as much cause theyre in usa

[Emaho]

Originally posted by cundor
Finland should make its own game
owned

[Due]

u guys need to stop whining.

we (tw) got the best staffers in SS!!

or do like thoes EG mods? :p

[Server]

Originally posted by Ephemeral
There is only one thing that would cause me to quit TW forever, and that would be if Server was put on Staff.

why didnt you fag quit back then when i was there then? :D

[Vehicle]

Mantra-Slider is from Finland, and he counts as 20 staffers. So we're all set.

[SuperMet]

Mantra is as Finnish as Swedish Fish. But he does count as 20 staffers.

[Krynetix]

Originally posted by Ragnarok.
u guys need to stop whining.

we (tw) got the best staffers in SS!!

or do like thoes EG mods? :p


actually tw staff doesnt really know jack shit
"but they dont need to know jack shit because tw is simple like that"

[Server]

lol jack shit..

Mantra is swedish.. imo inactive.. and mod that doesnt host anything gg.. NEXT :)

[Leaf]

I'm swedish :p, just pm me and i'll host when stupid rk gets up haha! ;p all my macros are filled with !setupwarp these days and now when King or any bot has synced with site it doesn't seem tow work to host but i'll host with !doors etc haha :D

[Emaho]

Our own jesus criste!

[Ephemeral]

Server,
Some of the keys attributes a staff member should possess are loyalty, knowledge of the game rules, and selflessness.

Let’s consider each one of these attributes.

On 03-30-2003 you replied to a post in the 'Light's qualification ' thread. You posted, “noone cant force ppl to join their squads in 2d spaceship games... it's about loyalty.. not stealing”. So you appear to understand the value of loyalty. But I am confused, because counting the squads that you have been on (according to your post on 07/07/02 ‘Squads You've Been On’) you appear to have been on more than 25 squads in the last 4 years. I am hard pressed to believe that joining an average of 6 squads a year can be considered loyalty. If I am incorrect about your level of loyalty, please explain this.

I think we can all agree that understanding the rules of the game is an important aspect of staffing. Yet according to several of your posts it appears that you either do not know the rules or simply ignore them. In your reply to the ‘How many times have you been banned?’ thread, you replied on 10/19/02 with, “umm... cant really count... 6-10 from tw... 10-20 from other zones...”. Then in a 01/20/03 thread entitled, '^Banned' you replied, “i was banned from 11 zones at one time... i'm still banned over year from 17th parallel and eg”. So please explain why you either do not understand the rules or why you chose to ignore them.

Moving on to a staffer being giving and selfless, let’s discuss your modesty and ego. On 10/01/02 you replied to the thread entitled, ‘Most Improved Player’ with, “I need to say that i have improved in basing a lot.. without any bragging. But i have.” Then in the 12/18/02 thread entitled, ‘Best terr in basing’ you state, “when you talk about top 10 terrs... i'm there!”. In the 12/21/02 thread entitled ‘Best Overall Basers’, you list yourself. I’m sure you will now begin to justify all of this as you just being funny. I know this since in the thread entitled, ‘Top 10 funniest dudes/chicks on TW’, you post, “me of course”.

And lastly, we can all agree that it is always important to be as good as your word. In your post 11-13-2002 entitled ‘Things we should do‘ you state, “Stop whining, arguing and talking shit and bad things about others”. Would you like me to list all your posts since 11/13/02 where you do just the opposite?

[Emaho]

OMFG!
OWNED. OWNED REALLY HARD.

[Malladrin]

That was pretty funny :p

[Dameon Angell]

i'm too tempted to quote Pallies video lines at him when he's on staff. >.< but, is Wadi finnish?

[Verthanthi]

wadi is welsh for platinum. Not really, though.

[Fit of Rage]

Originally posted by Dameon Angell
i'm too tempted to quote Pallies video lines at him when he's on staff. >.< but, is Wadi finnish?

Wadi's from California. So... no. :p

[aussie]

Lol @ Ephemeral's post.. Oh that was totally worth reading :D

[Mantra-Slider]

swedish fish!

shit wtf I dont have a yellow cellphone anylonger !

[Dim]

Originally posted by Ephemeral
Server,
Some of the keys attributes a staff member should possess are loyalty, knowledge of the game rules, and selflessness.

Let’s consider each one of these attributes.

On 03-30-2003 you replied to a post in the 'Light's qualification ' thread. You posted, “noone cant force ppl to join their squads in 2d spaceship games... it's about loyalty.. not stealing”. So you appear to understand the value of loyalty. But I am confused, because counting the squads that you have been on (according to your post on 07/07/02 ‘Squads You've Been On’) you appear to have been on more than 25 squads in the last 4 years. I am hard pressed to believe that joining an average of 6 squads a year can be considered loyalty. If I am incorrect about your level of loyalty, please explain this.

I think we can all agree that understanding the rules of the game is an important aspect of staffing. Yet according to several of your posts it appears that you either do not know the rules or simply ignore them. In your reply to the ‘How many times have you been banned?’ thread, you replied on 10/19/02 with, “umm... cant really count... 6-10 from tw... 10-20 from other zones...”. Then in a 01/20/03 thread entitled, '^Banned' you replied, “i was banned from 11 zones at one time... i'm still banned over year from 17th parallel and eg”. So please explain why you either do not understand the rules or why you chose to ignore them.

Moving on to a staffer being giving and selfless, let’s discuss your modesty and ego. On 10/01/02 you replied to the thread entitled, ‘Most Improved Player’ with, “I need to say that i have improved in basing a lot.. without any bragging. But i have.” Then in the 12/18/02 thread entitled, ‘Best terr in basing’ you state, “when you talk about top 10 terrs... i'm there!”. In the 12/21/02 thread entitled ‘Best Overall Basers’, you list yourself. I’m sure you will now begin to justify all of this as you just being funny. I know this since in the thread entitled, ‘Top 10 funniest dudes/chicks on TW’, you post, “me of course”.

And lastly, we can all agree that it is always important to be as good as your word. In your post 11-13-2002 entitled ‘Things we should do‘ you state, “Stop whining, arguing and talking shit and bad things about others”. Would you like me to list all your posts since 11/13/02 where you do just the opposite?

OMG, You are intelligent dude.

[Server]

Originally posted by Ephemeral
Server,
Some of the keys attributes a staff member should possess are loyalty, knowledge of the game rules, and selflessness.

Let’s consider each one of these attributes.

On 03-30-2003 you replied to a post in the 'Light's qualification ' thread. You posted, “noone cant force ppl to join their squads in 2d spaceship games... it's about loyalty.. not stealing”. So you appear to understand the value of loyalty. But I am confused, because counting the squads that you have been on (according to your post on 07/07/02 ‘Squads You've Been On’) you appear to have been on more than 25 squads in the last 4 years. I am hard pressed to believe that joining an average of 6 squads a year can be considered loyalty. If I am incorrect about your level of loyalty, please explain this.

I think we can all agree that understanding the rules of the game is an important aspect of staffing. Yet according to several of your posts it appears that you either do not know the rules or simply ignore them. In your reply to the ‘How many times have you been banned?’ thread, you replied on 10/19/02 with, “umm... cant really count... 6-10 from tw... 10-20 from other zones...”. Then in a 01/20/03 thread entitled, '^Banned' you replied, “i was banned from 11 zones at one time... i'm still banned over year from 17th parallel and eg”. So please explain why you either do not understand the rules or why you chose to ignore them.

Moving on to a staffer being giving and selfless, let’s discuss your modesty and ego. On 10/01/02 you replied to the thread entitled, ‘Most Improved Player’ with, “I need to say that i have improved in basing a lot.. without any bragging. But i have.” Then in the 12/18/02 thread entitled, ‘Best terr in basing’ you state, “when you talk about top 10 terrs... i'm there!”. In the 12/21/02 thread entitled ‘Best Overall Basers’, you list yourself. I’m sure you will now begin to justify all of this as you just being funny. I know this since in the thread entitled, ‘Top 10 funniest dudes/chicks on TW’, you post, “me of course”.

And lastly, we can all agree that it is always important to be as good as your word. In your post 11-13-2002 entitled ‘Things we should do‘ you state, “Stop whining, arguing and talking shit and bad things about others”. Would you like me to list all your posts since 11/13/02 where you do just the opposite?

lol you obssessed old pefophile.. i dont see what this has to do with getting staff members who are online when finnish ppl are?

but lets see.

1) Loyalty. I havent left a squad without a GOOD reason in 2 years. Or the squad has been dissolved. Like Shriek, Light..

2) Well i have only been banned from TW because of misunderstandings. From other zone for fun.. Why cant i go just have fun for one min because i dont care about other zones?

3) ‘Top 10 funniest dudes/chicks on TW’, you post, “me of course”. ... well that's the joke you moron.. and i if think i'm top something.. how does that make your life worse?

last thing i want to say.. stop being obsessed of me.. get your own life.

ty.

[Ephemeral]

Actually considering your behavior, this can clearly not be classified as a 'obsession'. What it can be classified as is holding you responsible for your actions and what comes out of your mouth. Additionally, I didn’t launch into some diatribe right away, I simply posted a very short opinion about you becoming a staffer again. Instead of simply leaving it at that, you felt obligated to stick your foot in your mouth again, so your point about me having an obsession is incorrect.

Just because I enjoy watching you spin and try to avoid actually addressing the issues that are raised, I will point out the faulty logic in your excuses.

You start off with, “i dont see what this has to do with getting staff members who are online when finnish ppl are?” I was addressing not your original post but the two or three directly following it, like where you state, “i've been there already.. sure i would like to get back tho maybe.”. So, once again, you are wrong.

1.) “Loyalty. I havent left a squad without a GOOD reason in 2 years. Or the squad has been dissolved. Like Shriek, Light..” Ok, given this logic than everyone should have about the same amount of squad-hopping as you, unless you are trying to say that it’s just you who has suffered this fate. Fact is, very people have burned through that many squads in that time period. Additionally, doesn’t ever person who leaves a squad think that they left for ‘good’ reasons? So, once again, you are wrong.

2.) “Well i have only been banned from TW because of misunderstandings. From other zone for fun.. Why cant i go just have fun for one min because i dont care about other zones?” Same broken logic as above, I guess everyone can say they were banned for ‘misunderstandings’’, just like every single person in jail didn’t do the crime. So, once again, you are wrong.

3.) “‘Top 10 funniest dudes/chicks on TW’, you post, “me of course”. ... well that's the joke you moron.. and i if think i'm top something.. how does that make your life worse?” Missed the point Einstein, try addressing the issue. The point is that your arrogance is an issue for if you are to represent the game and community. Then, of course, you support exactly the other point I make, which is you are not as good as your word by launching another personal attack on me. Calling someone a moron after you have published the statement that “we should stop whining, arguing and talking shit and bad things about each others” makes you wrong again.

Life’s a bitch when someone holds you responsible for your actions, isn’t it? Welcome to the real world. I have two recommendations for you. First, sit back down and be quiet before you look even worse. Second, announce your ‘retirement’, slink away, grow up, then consider coming back under a new name so no one knows who you really are.

[Facetious]

Wow, you hate Server more than I hate Mayo Inc. Yeah, I agree, Server is a douche, but you're a VP of a tech company. Don't you have better things to do than pick on some Finnish kid?

[Ephemeral]

Facetious, good point but me spending an hour today answering this thread MIGHT have some positive results.

If even just one person understands that they will be held responsible for their actions/words, especially those who want to be considered to represent the game and the community, then it was worth my time.

[Cig Smoke]

Pred also hosts alot, but even having 2-3 <ER> his time who mite not be on every day or host every day, and all the events dont get hosted by 3 <ER> ther are so many events finland ppl dont get to see on a reg basis. Also how many mods are there? i know Ara and mantra from over there but mantra is a little inactive + how many <ZH> to answer help calls i amnot saying go recruit 30 ppl just for finland time, but i think server does have a little bit of a point ;D

[Facetious]

Originally posted by Cig Smoke
i amnot saying go recruit 30 ppl just for finland time

I am saying it. 30 people or bust.

[za gophar]

the funny thing is that you would think server is from the american east coast by the times in which he plays.

[Server]

Originally posted by Ephemeral
Actually considering your behavior, this can clearly not be classified as a 'obsession'. What it can be classified as is holding you responsible for your actions and what comes out of your mouth. Additionally, I didn’t launch into some diatribe right away, I simply posted a very short opinion about you becoming a staffer again. Instead of simply leaving it at that, you felt obligated to stick your foot in your mouth again, so your point about me having an obsession is incorrect.

Just because I enjoy watching you spin and try to avoid actually addressing the issues that are raised, I will point out the faulty logic in your excuses.

You start off with, “i dont see what this has to do with getting staff members who are online when finnish ppl are?” I was addressing not your original post but the two or three directly following it, like where you state, “i've been there already.. sure i would like to get back tho maybe.”. So, once again, you are wrong.

1.) “Loyalty. I havent left a squad without a GOOD reason in 2 years. Or the squad has been dissolved. Like Shriek, Light..” Ok, given this logic than everyone should have about the same amount of squad-hopping as you, unless you are trying to say that it’s just you who has suffered this fate. Fact is, very people have burned through that many squads in that time period. Additionally, doesn’t ever person who leaves a squad think that they left for ‘good’ reasons? So, once again, you are wrong.

2.) “Well i have only been banned from TW because of misunderstandings. From other zone for fun.. Why cant i go just have fun for one min because i dont care about other zones?” Same broken logic as above, I guess everyone can say they were banned for ‘misunderstandings’’, just like every single person in jail didn’t do the crime. So, once again, you are wrong.

3.) “‘Top 10 funniest dudes/chicks on TW’, you post, “me of course”. ... well that's the joke you moron.. and i if think i'm top something.. how does that make your life worse?” Missed the point Einstein, try addressing the issue. The point is that your arrogance is an issue for if you are to represent the game and community. Then, of course, you support exactly the other point I make, which is you are not as good as your word by launching another personal attack on me. Calling someone a moron after you have published the statement that “we should stop whining, arguing and talking shit and bad things about each others” makes you wrong again.

Life’s a bitch when someone holds you responsible for your actions, isn’t it? Welcome to the real world. I have two recommendations for you. First, sit back down and be quiet before you look even worse. Second, announce your ‘retirement’, slink away, grow up, then consider coming back under a new name so no one knows who you really are.

You're so funny. "Take responsibility what you say or do" lol i am taking. This is a 2d game and you're what.. 65? and whining about ppl being different than you. Lol that is so hilarious. All i said in my last post was true and wont change a thing. Stop being obsessed about me. Yes, obsessed. There are noone else that you're whining about and that is really funny. You're still being mad about that Cripples stuff. When i actually saved Cripples. Oh poor you. This thread isnt nothing about me getting into staff. It's about getting ERs for +2/3 GMT timezone. "Welcome to the real world" funny you say that about 2d spaceship game. Take care of your own business and leave me alone? I dont need you trying to be my father. Go hang yourself papa.

and Facetious. I wouldnt call me a kid if i were you :)

[Ephemeral]

Originally posted by Server
...You're still being mad about that Cripples stuff. When i actually saved Cripples...


LOL, well I guess this is still on-topic, since it too is really about the incredible size of your ego. So you 'saved' the Crips? LOL

Let's see what those who were there remember about this. On 08/05/03, in a post entitled 'Nu Recruits' Louis states, "Eph, about the WF merge in 2001... it didn't take us very long to figure out that giving power to Server was a mistake!". So you remember that you saved the squad, everyone else remembers something very different.

Another great attribute for being a staffer. Good job, please keep running your mouth and proving my points.

[Server]

Originally posted by Ephemeral
LOL, well I guess this is still on-topic, since it too is really about the incredible size of your ego. So you 'saved' the Crips? LOL

Let's see what those who were there remember about this. On 08/05/03, in a post entitled 'Nu Recruits' Louis states, "Eph, about the WF merge in 2001... it didn't take us very long to figure out that giving power to Server was a mistake!". So you remember that you saved the squad, everyone else remembers something very different.

Another great attribute for being a staffer. Good job, please keep running your mouth and proving my points.

you still cant understand it.. i saved crips.. not getting myself in.. but getting like 8-10 active members into it.. that stayed and were good players..

[Ephemeral]

You still don't get it, by keeping this thread alive more and more people get to see what kind of person you really are (361 views and keeps growing!) LOL

Good job, keep replying! LOLOLOL

[Facetious]

Originally posted by Server

and Facetious. I wouldnt call me a kid if i were you :)

sorry forgot that you could beat my entire subspace squad 30 on one

[Server]

Originally posted by Facetious
sorry forgot that you could beat my entire subspace squad 30 on one

nah.. i'm not that good.. but maybe 26 on one :P

[Server]

Originally posted by Ephemeral
You still don't get it, by keeping this thread alive more and more people get to see what kind of person you really are (361 views and keeps growing!) LOL

Good job, keep replying! LOLOLOL

or more ppl get so see how obsessed you are..

how many threads are there were i have replied that you havent come and talked shit? oh well.. nice try tho.

[Ephemeral]

LOL That would be....ummmm...two. Wrong again. LOL

Keep it up, please!

[Louis XV]

This thead is spiffy.

[Server]

Originally posted by Ephemeral
LOL That would be....ummmm...two. Wrong again. LOL

Keep it up, please!

still.. one word: Obsessed


ps. maybe you should get help or something..

[Adeon]

Originally posted by Louis XV
This thead is spiffy.

[Ephemeral]

You have lost each argument, mostly by dancing around the actual issue. Now you are fixated on this obsession fantasy you have.

Just so we keep things straight, let’s review. I raised three issues about you wanting to be on staff again. These issues were
1.) Your loyalty, pointing out that by your own admission you have been on 25+ squads over the lat year. Your reply was that you had good reasons to leave each one.
2.) Your understanding of the rules. Again, by your own admission, you have been banned more in excess of 20 times, one year in some Zones. Your defense for this was that they were just merry mix ups.
3.) Your arrogance. Your defense for was that I was I moron because your 11 posts about your skill and self-promotion were all just a joke.

Then we move ‘forward’ with you ignoring responding to the above facts but lamely trying to deteriorate the discussion into saying I have an obsession and am staking you around the forums because I am pissed about something that happened almost 2 years ago, and that you in fact saved the Crips. I respond with a direct quote from Lou that proves you are wrong.

You come back with more comments about my 'obsession', even after you have run your mouth and been proven wrong again when I point out that i have only responded to two posts in 2 years.
If you want to stop looking like a moron, I would suggest that you actually try to address the original issues instead of your childish and inept attempts to change the topic and make it personal. (wait, I'll go ahead and say it for you, "I have answered the issues you obsessed old man in this 2d game. Go hang yourself and get a life" LOLOLOL)

But, on the other hand, keep it up, this is fun!

[Ephemeral]

Wadi, Zeus,
I’m hoping that you won’t move this thread to Trash or Useless. I am struggling to keep it from being pulled into juvenile personal attacks. I believe the value of this thread is to illustrate how to effectively argue the FACTS. I am also hoping that people will see how foolish it is to reduce forum discussions into non-factual attacks. Sure, anyone can stand there and toss insults and slander without having to have any facts. “You are lamer, you’re a moron” are easy things to say since no one has any factual information to support it.
Let us keep this thread here (at least for now) as an example of what to do and what not to do as adults.
thx

[Troll King]

While we're at it, can we stop tossing around terms like "obsession" and "fixation"? Almost every argument now has those words thrown in (often from both sides) as if the terms carried any merit. In the ways they are being used right now, they don't.

[Server]

Eph is a funny man. Lets give him a medal.

btw i havent been in +25 squads in last year.. more like hmm ... 7
A-S, WR, Melee, Shriek, Light, Rejected Basers and Provoke. I still dont know how being in many squads would effect to getting into staff. Squads come and go. You might get argues or misunderstandings. Maybe the squad dissolves or axes you for some kind of reason. I left a-s because they were being such newbies and hided in base game. I told i'll leave if they (we, back then) continue that. Because i hate that. From WR i got axed, Shriek dissolved, so did Light. I left melee to get in light and from RB i left to make my own squad with 2 friends of mine. I think you should forget this issue.

About banning. I just dont care. I've never got banned from TW for a real reason. I've always talked about ban after i got it and the one who banned me told i'm right.

Last thing. If i think I'm good. Then let me think it that way.

Edit: oh yea btw.. here you are saying that i'm arrogant and think much of myself, when actually you're saying how better person you are. I wouldnt think you are so much better when you're flaming me about what has happened sometime "not today".

[Ephemeral]

Thank you for addressing the issues.

Saying that it you have only been on 7 squads is very, very misleading. Your very own post (07/07/02 ‘Squads You've Been On’) lists no fewer than 12, and even then you go on to state that you left and rejoined several of them many times (Wildfire 3 times, for example). These all count as squad hopping, it isn’t honest at all to try to argue that Wildfire counts as one squad. The context is loyalty, or lack of it, so please explain how your history of squad hopping reflects positively on your loyalty.

You now say that you simply don’t care about being banned so much. That’s fine, IF you don’t want back on staff. But in your second post, and what started all of this, you seem to be saying that you might like to be back on staff. Which is it? If you are now saying that you don’t want on staff, this discussion is over. If you want back on staff now or in the future, than ‘not caring’ about the rules is a problem. Please clarify.

As far as thinking your good, I have no issue with that. The issue is with how people on staff approach the game and their attitudes. Surely everyone can agree with this, having a egotistical and self-serving staff would be a disaster. In fact, just the appearance of having someone on staff who is selfish or self-serving is enough to send everyone screaming about ‘corrupt staff’. So, while I agree that someone thinking of themselves as good isn’t a problem, having someone on staff who is perceived to be egotistical and self-serving is. It is my opinion that you have such a reputation. In fact, and in answer to your last point about, “here you are saying that i'm arrogant and think much of myself, when actually you're saying how better person you are” I was simply rephrasing things that you said about yourself. In your post on 11/13/03, you stated this about yourself, “I know what you think "oh it's server, the worst whiner ever" yea i know i was stupid. i whined in elim and had ego and stuff. was mean to ppl sometimes.” You clearly understand that people perceived you to be egotistical. I was simply restating what you have said about yourself. Please point out to me where I have said that I was better than you. Although this thread is full of me condemning you for your replies, I do not think I have ever said I was better than anyone else.

[sXe]

HAHA this is so hilarious.... its posts like these that make it worth it. it cracks me up thet Server cant even shut up.. even if he were right (which he isnt) it goes to show you how obsessed yes i did use the O word he is with himself... keep it up its good entertainment.... *DING DING DING * ROUND 6! ( or whatever round it is lol)

[Vantage]

Originally posted by sXe
HAHA this is so hilarious.... its posts like these that make it worth it. it cracks me up thet Server cant even shut up.. even if he were right (which he isnt) it goes to show you how obsessed yes i did use the O word he is with himself... keep it up its good entertainment.... *DING DING DING * ROUND 6! ( or whatever round it is lol)

Puff the magic dragon.