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    I agree that there should be only 1 zone and that that should have been the case for years now.

    I doubt that it will happen, people seem to be more willing to let the game die completely than to "hand over" or share what little power they have over their zones to TW.

    Anyway, if we do manage to relaunch on Steam, at least we might get a few days of old vets returning again before they inevitably get fed up again and leave.
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    After today's Steam update, when I try to launch ss I get a UAC popup along the lines of - do you want to let Steam Client Service run Continuum as admin.

    If I say no - ss launches.

    If i say yes - steam gets stuck "performing first time setup - installing registry console tool".



    Tried other games, they all work fine.


    Can't screenshot UAC popups apparently..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rab View Post
    After today's Steam update, when I try to launch ss I get a UAC popup along the lines of - do you want to let Steam Client Service run Continuum as admin.

    If I say no - ss launches.

    If i say yes - steam gets stuck "performing first time setup - installing registry console tool".



    Tried other games, they all work fine.


    Can't screenshot UAC popups apparently..
    Thanks for reporting this. What ver of Windows you're using (including if it's Home/Pro/etc.)? If you don't want people to know, can PM me too. Would really help with compatibility testing. Actually, that's another topic we're gonna need to look at. Marking it here so I remember -- Do Compatibility Testing -- basically having a thread where people install on Steam and post their setup and the results, and make sure everything is good. If we get really lucky we could even do this with various Mac OS versions and Linux distros/versions as well as versions of Wine. Would love to slowly patch Cont up to be as close to 100% normally working on all computers from Steam. Making it out-of-the-box friendly on Mac/Linux could open up huge amounts of players who are always looking for F2P games on their undersupported setups.

    For anyone who gives a damn, the background behind why this is happening: Recently we had an old install script attached to the game... Valve had to manually remove it to even be able to update stuff. When they did that enabled the last install script I tried, which uses reg.exe rather than the more-available regedit.exe. I'll switch back to that one this weekend. Sorry it's a bit of a pain at the moment. I'm gonna get it cleaned up and push a reliable update, then not mess with anything except on a beta branch or local branch. I was trying everything to figure out this one bug, though, so I had to pull out all the stops... Apologies...
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    Quote Originally Posted by qan View Post
    What ver of Windows you're using (including if it's Home/Pro/etc.)?
    Windows10 Home x64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rab View Post
    After today's Steam update, when I try to launch ss I get a UAC popup along the lines of - do you want to let Steam Client Service run Continuum as admin.

    If I say no - ss launches.

    If i say yes - steam gets stuck "performing first time setup - installing registry console tool".



    Tried other games, they all work fine.


    Can't screenshot UAC popups apparently..

    "+1"
    3:kyler> who r u btw i keep wanting to ask people "who is 45th pres" but someone gonna say "trump"
    3:45th President> do it
    kyler> who is 45th President
    nah> donald j trump

    Downfall> Shoutout to forwards for randomly giving gunsmith results that made no sense and just made things harder

    Jacklyn> holster is the thing that holds/carry the gun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rab View Post
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    OK, thanks. Pushed a new update to Steam, which should fix the problem by using regedit and not reg.

    Also includes an update to the /zones folder, so new players will instantly load to all zones for the time being. It's very easy to update that, too. Takes only about 5 min. So if you notice any new downloads in other zones, let me know.

    Updates should also no longer overwrite Steam users' config files.
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    That did not solve the issue.

    Took a photo of the UAC, should have probably done this from the start.
    http://imgur.com/nUDBc7p

    Edit: I was expecting to not get the UAC popup anymore.
    Having discussed with qan - the fix is that when you select Yes in the UAC popup it no longer gets stuck.
    I can confirm that fix works.
    Last edited by Rab; 01-21-2017 at 05:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rab View Post
    That did not solve the issue.

    Took a photo of the UAC, should have probably done this from the start.
    http://imgur.com/nUDBc7p

    Edit: I was expecting to not get the UAC popup anymore.
    Having discussed with qan - the fix is that when you select Yes in the UAC popup it no longer gets stuck.
    I can confirm that fix works.
    "+1"
    3:kyler> who r u btw i keep wanting to ask people "who is 45th pres" but someone gonna say "trump"
    3:45th President> do it
    kyler> who is 45th President
    nah> donald j trump

    Downfall> Shoutout to forwards for randomly giving gunsmith results that made no sense and just made things harder

    Jacklyn> holster is the thing that holds/carry the gun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leland View Post
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    3:kyler> who r u btw i keep wanting to ask people "who is 45th pres" but someone gonna say "trump"
    3:45th President> do it
    kyler> who is 45th President
    nah> donald j trump

    Downfall> Shoutout to forwards for randomly giving gunsmith results that made no sense and just made things harder

    Jacklyn> holster is the thing that holds/carry the gun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turban View Post
    One could argue that the entire public arena should be scrapped and rebuilt by perhaps shifting the focus to competitive dueling to promote a faster and more action-packed gameplay, but I digress.
    I haven't been in TW for about a month, and instead have been playing EG; it is just more active and fun right now. In EG, they've moved "baseduel" to pub, so that the majority of their competitive gameplay is concentrated in one arena. It is definitely more active than TW is these days. I have said it many times in the past: if ?go base/wbduel/javduel were put into the entering arena, in addition to a pub map with a smaller spawn area, TW as a whole would be significantly more active.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pressure View Post
    if ?go base/wbduel/javduel were put into the entering arena, in addition to a pub map with a smaller spawn area, TW as a whole would be significantly more active.
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    IMO,having players read/watch a tutorial about the game will have little impact at all in learning anything. i saw so many timesnew players going through the !tutorial, hopping in a ship, then going through the tutorial again because they forgot about everything they just read and did. so many times i saw new player helpers repeating themselves over and over again, including myself to the same plyer on how to change ships, or respond back to someone who's pming them, how to shoot...etc. after awhile that gets repetitive to anew player and they quit right away. when i started in 2006, all i was told was arrow keys and ctrl with ship 1, just that was enough to get by, dueling other players with the same skill in pub. i learned how to play by pubbing against izor, killah, ajant, screamingpanda, ice>cap, lagmagic, and many more, stats didnt mean anything, having pubbux didnt mean shit. why should a new player be concerned with the system? learning the game, learning the ship and becoming better than those players meant more. i didnt even know there was anything else to this game but the pub, until zhou tai soldier came along and recruited me. seemed confusing when he told me about his squad, but the months i played in pub and learning shit on my own, i grasped the concepts quickly with twd. forcing a new player onto a squad who's learning the game, and having someone on their back about the squad, and joining this arena, joining that arena, type ?chat= blah blah blah, they dont want to hear that. the people i recruited in the first launch didnt say much in chat, they just played and sucked at the game. having to learn coords or sticking with the team when they dont know how to fly is just too much for them. going 1-10 in a match is so depleting. give them the opportunity to play in pub, learn th game by themselves, then then ones who stick around are the ones we know we can bring into twd

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    -if you'r doing a tutorial, then a quick lesson on flight controls and shooting in both wb and jav. all the other ships should be locked except for 1,2,3,7
    -do not allow new players to join squads, it's too much to grasp in too little time. basics first, the lesser the commands needed to learn about the game, the better
    -read about tw just being the main zone for this launch and i agree wholeheartedly. it's slower and n00b friendly
    -get wbduel/javduel, maybe a race course or hockey in ?go 0. the entire population need to be here for this, in one arena. host a team deathmatch for money or something, if getting a twdd arena in pub is even plausible
    -staff should not have to be a part of the greeting process. main focus is making sure everything else is running smoothly. let trusted players handle that. not everyone deserves to be a greeter though on the same token.
    -can we send out emails to players to attend the relaunch? maybe to even just sit around idly to get the population count up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banks View Post
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    3:kyler> who r u btw i keep wanting to ask people "who is 45th pres" but someone gonna say "trump"
    3:45th President> do it
    kyler> who is 45th President
    nah> donald j trump

    Downfall> Shoutout to forwards for randomly giving gunsmith results that made no sense and just made things harder

    Jacklyn> holster is the thing that holds/carry the gun

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    Maybe we should all recall our experiences of why we stayed playing after that first minute, five minutes, 1 hour of playing. What kept us in the game. What made us relogin after the first session? What made us addicts?

    As a newbie, what first got me into the game was playing WB in spawn, where you had miniduels against other spawn wbs. It was really hard to get even 1 damn kill... but somehow I wanted to keep trying. The chat was fun to read with kill macros, people talking shit or about random things. From that point I gradually learnt other stuff, like attaching, basing, other arenas, events etc.

    So based on my experience, during the relaunch we should try to not overcomplicate things and just let the new players kill each other in spawn. We don't overload them with information and if someone wants to learn how to attach... speak in yellow chat... they'll make the effort.

    Also, like Jessup said, it is bad if one arena has 70 players, 30 of whom are talking in chat. If the default 8 chat lines are running down too fast, it detracts from the experience. We want new players to be able to have a conversation in the pubchat. It should not be a blur.
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    Quote Originally Posted by midoent View Post
    Maybe we should all recall our experiences of why we stayed playing after that first minute, five minutes, 1 hour of playing. What kept us in the game. What made us relogin after the first session? What made us addicts?

    As a newbie, what first got me into the game was playing WB in spawn, where you had miniduels against other spawn wbs. It was really hard to get even 1 damn kill... but somehow I wanted to keep trying. The chat was fun to read with kill macros, people talking shit or about random things. From that point I gradually learnt other stuff, like attaching, basing, other arenas, events etc.

    So based on my experience, during the relaunch we should try to not overcomplicate things and just let the new players kill each other in spawn. We don't overload them with information and if someone wants to learn how to attach... speak in yellow chat... they'll make the effort.

    Also, like Jessup said, it is bad if one arena has 70 players, 30 of whom are talking in chat. If the default 8 chat lines are running down too fast, it detracts from the experience. We want new players to be able to have a conversation in the pubchat. It should not be a blur.
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    3:kyler> who r u btw i keep wanting to ask people "who is 45th pres" but someone gonna say "trump"
    3:45th President> do it
    kyler> who is 45th President
    nah> donald j trump

    Downfall> Shoutout to forwards for randomly giving gunsmith results that made no sense and just made things harder

    Jacklyn> holster is the thing that holds/carry the gun

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    Yeah no newb wants to base, basing is straight garbage for new players.
    Fix it so everyone spawns outside, newbs wanna shoot levis and and have wb battles at bottom safe. Only reason I stayed was to fly around and duel other players, took like a year of playing before I even cared to attach and base.

    You already tried the whole basing approch on the first launch.... Dont make the same mistakes twice......

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