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    So if you are quoting Thomas Paine than you obviously agree that our constitution and way of governance is still to this day fantastic? I swear man, I love you but you need to lay off the drugs, you have 20 different personalities on your posts, I can literally tell when your fucked up and not based on your style of writing, and how you are trying to persuade me. You should really work on that if you want to change peoples minds about anything.
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    Paine believed that God doesn't interact with the world. As a result of his belief he was ostracized and only 6 people attended his funeral. Stay classy, America.

    Anyway if you think T. Paine wouldn't come into the modern political debates swinging like Thor in a kindergarten then you don't undestand the man. His wikipedia page is a solid wall of him dunking on the pea-brains of his time, and as a pea-brain of this time you would suffer a similar fate.

    Actually there's a good quote from wiki. A loyalist hated Paine because he thought without a monarchy, the country would "degenerate into democracy." He called Paine a political quack. Well, who did history side with on that one? And do you see any relation to the alt-right today? Let me explain it to you.

    Loyalists had a lot to lose. The one in question was a large landowner in Maryland with slaves. It's in his immediate interest to support whatever view will put a dollar in his pocket. That's politics. You think politics is some philosophical utopia for the wisest participants only? No, it's a big soup of people who want something (money, power, status) and are willing to organize to mould the legal and political landscape to their desire, whatever the cost to others may be. And they say, if YOU wanted those rewards you'd organize and seek to change the political lanscape, too.

    Yet overwhelmingly the people who seek out power and the ability to control others are 'evil'. Good people don't want to control others and thus, only fight back from a losing position. But politics has always been the same: those who make the effort get the power. Democrats are part of the mess but I generally see them as better. Do gay rights make anyone obscenely wealthy? I dont think so. And if the morals of it are so obscene, what can we say in turn about the morals of the GOP, who are willing to demonize you and control you based on a consensual act. Where exactly do you find the moral high ground in the Republican party?

    Just like the Loyalists of the 1700's were defeated, and the Confederates of the 1800's, and any other collective moral failings since, so will the alt-right.

    It's funny how this all ends up in a thread about socialism. Confederate soldiers weren't the worst people. Neither were German soldiers. Compared to their political orgs at least. Many were just looking to make a living or protect their existing livelihood. The real evil came from those with power who could disseminate their terrible ideas a) in a way that would outrage the common man so that he would support your cause and b) so that they would be the ultimate benefactor of the political change. Very basic stuff in Marxist lines of thonking. Of course the very basic and evident truth of this is exactly why it is so hated among anyone who desires power (and as stated earlier, those who seek power are often nefarious, or at least it isn't too uncommon). The regular folk are easily manipulated precisely because they lack power/means to power and, individually, are at a disadvantage when it comes to negotiating for more power.

    So, Marxist interpretations of both historical and modern events hold true depending on the initial axioms you wish to start with. Perhaps another theory explains social dynamics between the wealthy elite and 'downtrodden pawns' in a way that better encompasses the realities that others believe Marxism ignores, but I have yet to see it.

    Also as a terrible thinker (everyone knows) it only just occurred to me that you basically proved Jerome's point. If you take your own reasoning seriously: that quoting (perhaps the original) Founding Father indicates support of some other idea he had, then we as a society should be more open to the idea of universal basic income. After all, the Founding Fathers likely quoted Paine and agreed with him, which means they must have thought UBI was a fantastic idea! (By your logic, anyway..)

    There's my contribution to Team Jerome. You are a good guy I agree with that. Every time I come into this thread there's a new interesting topic to think about. Thomas Paine was lit and I think we could learn a lot from someone like him as well.

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    Information coming directly from Mueller's indictment states that the defendants (Russian Nationals and their orgs here) have been posing as American activists since 2014. They stole the identities of real Americans as well to add a layer of deception. They operated social media pages and "over time became the means to reach a significant number of Americans".

    Is it over? Are we done yet? What more evidence is required to convince you that you were duped by very recent propaganda techniques? It's just sad. Russia has such an easy job because Americans like Kthx would sooner burn the country to the ground and start again than admit they were duped or had.

    America was doing fine. Only Trump and his recently (since 2014 =DD we can now put a date on it) fervered base think the country is declining. Time for 49% (or whatever it was) of voters to admit that they were duped by the fake news they claim to hate so much.

    This thread is so easy. Almost as easy as this 'super-gay-to-play-whilst-sober' spaceship game.

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    And it's exactly why DumbF tried to discredit the FBI and Mueller LONG before this. He knew what was coming and mentally prepped his base for the angle they need to take b/c the information that came out would be so damning, if of course Republicans actually gave a fuck. They just wanted blackie and Hillary out and didn't care how.
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    lol this mueller shit reminds me that the same people who think hillary clinton is openly selling uranium to russia and killing people in benghazi, that think the FBI is wiretapping trump, that think a large majority of the government has formed an insidious cabal known as "the swamp" that is actively working with the deep state to depose our elected president...

    these same people tell me we need the second amendment because if tyranny ever comes to america, they'll be there to stop it

    fucking lol, pussies, if you were gonna do something you'da done it. so please hand over ur toys so children stop fucking dying, or fucking man up and overthrow this shitty inhumane tyrannical government
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dierienow
    Information coming directly from Mueller's indictment states that the defendants (Russian Nationals and their orgs here) have been posing as American activists since 2014. They stole the identities of real Americans as well to add a layer of deception. They operated social media pages and "over time became the means to reach a significant number of Americans".
    I've heard "Russian national" used a lot in this situation. Very illustrative of the deceptive nature of these kinds of reports.

    The reason the term "Russian national" is used in this context is that it sounds simultaneously more insidious and more official, while literally still just meaning "Russian citizen". "Russian citizen" lacks the punch needed to get people coming back to the infofeed and buying your advertiser's products, though, so you've gotta ramp it up with "Russian national." As far as I'm aware, those charged have not been linked to any government agency. Same goes for the term "Russian hackers." The implication, again, is "Russian hackers employed by the Russian state." Yet there is little evidence of that -- as far as I'm aware. Some of the so-called "hacks" are ... heh ... portscans. Portscans initiated from an IP inside the Russian Federation. Right now, I could start a VPN, get a Russian IP, and portscan the DNC. (It's not even illegal to do.) Look, Ma! I'm a Russian hacker! She'd be so proud.

    The point is: Russian, Chinese, Israeli, American, French, German, Brazilian and Thai nationals are all posing as activitists in the US and elsewhere. This is not new information. Disinfo campaigns, whether financed by government agencies or NGOs, are a fact of life. The US also tries to actively influence Russian elections. The CIA is in loose, de facto control of many small governments by proxy. "Troll farms" exist and exert influence, and are probably a necessary component of any even moderately-sized political campaign in today's world. Does this mean "democracy is hacked!!!," and we will never be safe again? No. It means we've got to use our heads to analyze what we read and hear, form our own opinions, and not rely on Facebook, Twitter or Instagram for our news. (Or any small set of sources, for that matter, particularly not non-print sources that are ideologically-aligned and are designed to be difficult to process while triggering emotional responses, such as MSNBC, Fox News, Infowars, CNN, /pol/, NPR, Russia Today, Voice of America, etc.)

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    I also have no problem with the re militarization of our country or for the religious like respect our military gets. I have no problem having military parades, or having flyovers at sporting events or any of that. I don't see why it bothers anyone to be honest.
    Because it's an advertisement for a product, the stated intent of which is to kill people. You'd have to be pretty naive about the workings of the world, or a sociopath, for that stuff not to bother you.
    "You're a gentleman," they used to say to him. "You shouldn't have gone murdering people with a hatchet; that's no occupation for a gentleman."
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    lol a former head of CIA was on fox news the other day and straight up said the US interferes in elections all the time, except we 'do it for a good cause' or whatever

    here's an interesting article: https://medium.com/s/story/the-singu...s-3e280baa045c

    From a financial point of view, Amazon doesn’t behave much like a successful 21st-century company. Amazon has not bought back its own stock since 2012. Amazon has never offered its shareholders a dividend. Unlike its peers Google, Apple, and Facebook, Amazon does not hoard cash. It has only recently started to record small, predictable profits. Instead, whenever it has resources, Amazon invests in capacity, which results in growth at a ridiculous clip. When the company found itself with $13.8 billion lying around, it bought a grocery chain for $13.7 billion. As the Recode story referenced above summarizes in one of the graphs: “It took Amazon 18 years as a public company to catch Walmart in market cap, but only two more years to double it.” More than a profit-seeking corporation, Amazon is behaving like a planned economy.
    casual reminder that corporations are literally just as bad as "muh gubmints"
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    ICE is now looking for ways to spy on Americans. you know.... for illegal immigration reasons.

    http://reason.com/blog/2018/02/20/no...want-to-spy-on

    kthx gonna wake up anytime soon or just keep ignoring the actual threats to our freedom?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerome Scuggs View Post
    ICE is now looking for ways to spy on Americans. you know.... for illegal immigration reasons.

    http://reason.com/blog/2018/02/20/no...want-to-spy-on

    kthx gonna wake up anytime soon or just keep ignoring the actual threats to our freedom?
    I am too busy working 70 hours the last two weeks to worry about it right now to be honest fam. But as always I am right about everyting.
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    lmao

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privatization



    i dont know why ive never actually looked at the wiki page for "privatization", in one sentence i learned that 1) nazis cant be socialist if they literally invented the concept of privatization and 2) people who want the government to privatize things are literally advocating for nazi programs

    ahahahahashsbhdsabfalhksdf this world is too surreal
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    Every day the pieces fall into place. If the piece doesn't fit consider that there's another puzzle, but if they fit then you don't just stop putting it together because you don't like the picture it's making. Every time you get some new information put it to the puzzle and see where it fits logically speaking. That said I think it's just coincidence that Republicans are racist and happen to enjoy the economic benefits that privatization brings them. I'm sure some of them are actually quite close to being Nazis to be fair. I find it more interesting that they would call themselves 'socialists' while doing everything the opposite. It's like people can just say shit and there's so many bozos in the world (kings of their world of course, where they made $50 extra last paycheck for doing the same work yet don't see that as unfair) that they just don't give a fuck and vote for the guy who appeals to them emotionally. Appealing to human emotion is like appealing to a fucking cesspool because people are tuned more towards negative emotion than positive so you get some of the worst atrocities in history simply by appealing to the common person's emotional side. Quite dangerous if you think about it, emotions that is.

    People who see the world without emotion are blessed with either psychopathy (and may become quite successful in their evil acts) or autism. My understanding of the people without either of these disorders is that logic might as well be a 25th century concept because FUCK YOU we're worshipping God, bitch. Demons, bitch. The world is a fucking magical fairy tale where God never shows up but the consequences of our actions appear perpetually as if it's cause-and-effect. But fuck you, we're believing in angels, gaybo. When you're already willing to believe in such fantasy then your reality is much easier to manipulate, since you already know they're willing to believe in something with zero evidence beyond a book written 150 years after the fact.

    Anyway I found this gem of a picture off of reddit:




    I love Ben Carson's reason for not taking a cabinet position in Trump's whitehouse despite being offered: "The last thing he [Ben Carson] would want to do was take a position that could cripple the presidency." Yet he ran for the fucking presidency, against Trump. And that's the guy you want operating on your brain lmao ffs.

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    historically illiterate moron conservatives are having a really hard go at it right now



    also, in other news, this



    president bone spurs, who literally has zero known record of him running anywhere, would just absolutely run into gunfire. like he did in vietnam



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    There was another thing I saw about the ice caps. I'll save you a minute of your life and tell you the arctic is shrinking!!! over the past 40-50 years we've been recording, or so, with the total area decreasing by some small yet significant amount (around 10-15%) but the real thick ice that reflects the most light back has declined by a far greater amount, somewhere in the range of 75-85%. It's not insignificant.

    Cool fact that I at least didn't know: the US aircraft carriers (the huge and fast ships out in the middle of the ocean that lead the fleet) are freaking nuclear powered, bitch. Btw is Ironman not the coolest superhero? He made his own power through science. He's the civ that's like, we're going to build roads, walls around every town, 65%ranged,25%melle,10%support, use builder (w/ infinite build mod) to clear everything and tech up to better and better ranged units, upgrade them and turtle even when they question your military. Deal with the barbarians. Ok maybe it's not exactly the same.. Ironman fuses the nuclear with biology...perhaps not today but 100 years in the future maybe. It's kind of difficult to move forward though if you're unwilling to deal with a threat (global warming) because that problem won't just go away without awareness and solutions. Coal is not a long-term solution, it is cheap and quick and so are the consequences evidently. We've recovered the Ozone (apparently?) and the Arctic is recoverable too, thankfully, because it is a reversible process. If the Arctic fully melted we could just build a white shiny thing and house it there 365 days a year, use it for something like a international space base where we combine all the nations after we've tried our hardest to solve evidently eradicatable problems such as disease, malnutrition, housing/poverty, mental wellness and happiness, unsustainable environmental practices, disarmament, respectable values, and so on. As I say people would rather hold the negative emotions because they are so powerful. Healthy mind, conscience, and body. It's true that nobody can be perfect, so the past you must be forgiven, and let go of as "you today" while retaining the experiences. To do something today because it agrees with what you did yesterday, and the day before, rather than what could agree with now, and the future. Do I have to explain the mistake in that? See everyone would read this and agree and say of course that's so obvious but where do they implement this? Why would Trump target Mexicans in New York and shit with families? Is that the dangerous guy? Does it all on the taxpayer (YOUR) dollar and you ride along like hehe that tickles my bum too! dingle berry cucks. I mop up these cucks like nothing else I wouldn't be surprised if these Russians with fake ids all voted too what a joke. Russian mafia in your government I can't wait until myself and people like me aren't allowed to post THIS message and messages LIKE THIS... I take it VERY seriously! The threat is here in Canada, too, and it's all these old fucks and pedophiles in Hollywood and fuck dude this world is crazy fucked up I just want to skateboard when it warms up like DUDE. Lol.
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    This faggot thinks global warming is real rofl
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    Quote Originally Posted by kthx View Post
    This faggot thinks global warming is real rofl

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    A Story In Three Parts, Or: I Love It When I'm Right!

    Quote Originally Posted by west virginia republicans who think "socialism" is whenever the government does something
    Quote Originally Posted by jerome, in this thread, on february 15th
    the right has called welfare "socialism" for so long that y'all have forgotten that welfare isn't socialism. it's an alternative to socialism. i dont even know why i'm fighting the GOP effort to burn it to the ground, in doing so you will jumpstart the mass socialist movement i dream of.
    Quote Originally Posted by west virginia teachers who organized the largest wildcat strike in almost a century, on february 26th
    hey kthx, if the media is so "liberal", and if "liberals" are all socialists, why was this teachers' strike, where every single teacher in every single school in every single city in west virginia went on strike for 9 days, not covered by the mainstream media until today - and even then, only 30-second blurbs and brief mentions?

    fuck the capitalists, fuck the union fat cats, over the past week we've witnessed an entire people organize for better working conditions. they SHUT DOWN the entire state's education system. they held out. they told the union fat cats to fuck off when the unions agreed to a measly compromise that would have not actually resulted in a raise. (look up the term "wildcat strike")

    but thats not all. the teachers also organized food drives to feed kids who depended on the school lunch program. they held workshops and classes to continue working with students studying for SAT/ACT tests, AP tests, and other standardized tests.

    and what did the teachers get? they got a raise... not just for the teachers: for every state employee in west virginia.

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    i always avoid making bold predictions cuz i hate thinking that i might be wrong... but then, whenever i'm right, i regret not posting the prediction

    so fuck it im gonna make a prediction, so i can quote it later and make fun of kthx:

    this teacher strike might be one of the most significant events of the past decade. our politicians (not just republicans tbh) have all but destroyed unions, they have destroyed workers' rights, they have destroyed the ability for workers to bargain with their employers. and you know, they really thought they had finally smashed the working class down into permanent obedience... they really thought they could announce cuts all across the board to medicare, welfare, and other programs while also transferring 1.8trillion in tax cuts to the richest corporations and individuals.

    and republicans are so fucking stupid that while this strike was going on, republican pundits were screaming "arm the teachers! arm the teachers!", completely oblivious that teachers were ready to go on strike without the added burden of learning to use a gun and becoming a part-time cop.

    and republicans are SO FUCKING STUPID that they caved like little fucking bitches. they didn't even reach a compromise... they straight up caved to the demands of the teachers. so, if you're keeping count... a group of workers demanded higher wages, they organized in order to get higher wages, they ignored the original compromise proposed by the government, they ignored their union bosses who told them to accept the compromise, they went for the whole shebang - and got exactly what they wanted... and more, since -every- public employee is now getting a raise

    so. once again. keep on yapping about "welfare queens" and "muh socialism", keep on supporting these budget cuts and attacks on our social safety nets. keep telling yourself that the people who complain are "lazy" or "entitled". because you know what? in the past week i've been having conversations with friends of mine who are teachers, and suddenly they seem far, far more receptive to the shit i talk about than they did 2 weeks ago. they now see that solidarity and organizing DO work. they are now educating themselves. they are getting curious, and naturally, daddy jerome is here to help them find their way.

    i mean, i'm always hopeful... but for the first time i can now see the possibility of being involved in a general strike, in louisiana, in my lifetime. fucking crazy.

    i fucking love 2018, here's to hoping we see more direct action like this

    edit: no seriously, go look up the term "wildcat strike", and consider why the word "wildcat" is used, what the word is a reference to, etc
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