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    Quote Originally Posted by LF View Post
    Everyone keeps grouping Henry and Jessup together and I'm not sure why. Unless there is something else going on behind the scenes that I am unaware of, which I doubt, Jessup has absolutely no influence on any matters at all. Yes (s)he stands to benefit most from this cup in its current format and makes the extra effort to be as annoying as possible about it but as far as I know hasn't contributed anything of substance in any form to any aspect of this zone aside from making pixel medals for his own twd profile in advance.

    As far as 'people cant work with the top staffers'...Theres really only 2 that ever show their face anymore. Those being qan and Henry. Changes ARE being made from within but at the end of the day nothing changes if nothing changes. We need quality/knowledgeable players to fill these positions and until that happens we will continue to be plagued by the same problems. If any of you feel like you have something left to give to the zone feel free to use me as as medium. I like to think I still have at least a little influence around here

    Edit: Also....Ogron was good at what he did with leagues, but he's wiibimbo 2.0 and made his own bed. Theres no point harping on something that nobody can change
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    lol i mean ogrons attitude was rly bad because he knew we had no choice but to put up with him, seems like he was spot on though. he didn't liek qan/henry messing with his work either because both are clueless when it comes to tw competition

    end of the day though game is dying because we're all getting older and it's almost impossible to get new players with the games that are available these days. twd cup is clearly the worst league ever, basically created so envy/paladen can finally win something, makes tsl look like the premier league. I've seen henry saari replace pee pee sock in a tslj game for demonfaze, but i mean he is trying/active so that's worth a lot nowadays.

    Shouldn't be forfeit wins in playoffs ever also, "use your subs" shouldn't be a real excuse nowadays with how the player base is. People logged on for TSL games during the week should be possible to do that again for this twd cup thing. If one team is clearly not trying to make it work then there's nothing to be done

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    Yo, LF (LF the other player, not LamedFighter who has the OG name )

    I am pretty positive there is more to their relationship than they allow to be public, I mean Jessup has been axed from staff like 3-4 times within the last year for very valid reasons and Henry has each time, reinstated Jessup's Mod status. Considering I've never seen Jessup, nor has anyone one else, do a single thing for the zone other than abuse his powers, it makes zero sense to keep him on staff unless there is something behind the scenes that we aren't aware of. So I speculate there is. When it comes to changes or w/e for this zone, you'll never find one without the other. They're usually in tandem. Plus, Jessup was a huge reason Henry got his fancy promotion to begin with, trolling Ogron along with Skyforger during TWDT.

    As far as Ogron, yea he was an idiot most times but he had a much stronger player influence than anyone else currently running leagues. Ogron could generate players from the woodworks to play and he ran the leagues relatively well. He was a loose cannon no doubt and hardly likeable, but he was an asset to competitive gaming for subspace. Jessup and Henry shoved him out under this premise they'd run it better but so far as been far more destructive to this game than Ogron ever would of been, says a lot. We expected this cup to be at least better than TSL, yet unsurprisingly, they made it worse when none of us thought that was even possible. Quite a feat, just sucks its for a game I enjoy playing.

    Guess it doesn't matter now. The cancer has spread and it's too late to cut it out. I have zero aspirations to ever log in again and am sure I am not alone, really unfortunate. I keep checking these forums to see if staff has pulled their heads out of their asses or at the very least tried to hype something else up for us to look to, but nothing. There is no care for damage control whatsoever, just further validates their sheer recklessness and lack of appreciation for this game.

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    EDIT: Commenting further on my closing statement, only thing staff has done damage control wise has been to come on here and rub it in our faces, which if you see post from Jessup or Skyforger, validates that claim. They think it's hilarious and want to poke fun at it all. Enough said.

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    I've tried my best as staffer LF . I put in countless hours in game doing help and cheater calls and training new players ect.. Besides a few little missteps I made here and there I've done what staffers should do here. I also have been punished for things I did wrong which many staffers never were for their mistakes. I accepted my discipline even though imo it was overkill. All internal staff stuff that I won't get into here now...

    I don't know why everyone says I've been so annoying during the twd cup either. I didn't start anything with anyone and have just been complying with the league rules. I defended myself verses wild false accusations and delusional posts from a few dum dums here though. People are unduly fixated on me which is flattering and weird at same time. I have had some fun on forums being combative but nothing most regulars who use forums have not done themselves. Look at the things people say about me like wii and ixador.. It's downright hilarious.. gotta poke back at them a tad for kicks. As far as the game goes though I play with my mates on Paladen and we have fun. We are an active squad and squad is running smoothly. You guys should take notes, make squads and strive for same thing. Paladen has done a lot for this game over the years and Jebass , up in ya !! and every one of our members through the years should be proud of what we have accomplished for the game. What great times. I smile looking back on it and look forward to future too if we are lucky enough for game to continue to live on. Paladen deserves respect and the people bashing us are wayyyy out of line and imo idiots. We have given countless players a chance to experience this game in a squad format no others would.

    I didn't implement anything officially myself to twd cup also. I was part of the initial brainstorm ideas that were then developed and run with by upper staff. The cup is being a success too. TWD activity is higher than it has been in 18 months and that is a fact.

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    Duel junk left over with what 5 or 6 squads. TWD Cup is suppose to be about together and teams friendly in skirmish. Bull!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessup View Post
    I've tried my best as staffer LF . I put in countless hours in game doing help and cheater calls and training new players ect.. Besides a few little missteps I made here and there I've done what staffers should do here. I also have been punished for things I did wrong which many staffers never were for their mistakes. I accepted my discipline even though imo it was overkill. All internal staff stuff that I won't get into here now...

    I don't know why everyone says I've been so annoying during the twd cup either. I didn't start anything with anyone and have just been complying with the league rules. I defended myself verses wild false accusations and delusional posts from a few dum dums here though. People are unduly fixated on me which is flattering and weird at same time. I have had some fun on forums being combative but nothing most regulars who use forums have not done themselves. Look at the things people say about me like wii and ixador.. It's downright hilarious.. gotta poke back at them a tad for kicks. As far as the game goes though I play with my mates on Paladen and we have fun. We are an active squad and squad is running smoothly. You guys should take notes, make squads and strive for same thing. Paladen has done a lot for this game over the years and Jebass , up in ya !! and every one of our members through the years should be proud of what we have accomplished for the game. What great times. I smile looking back on it and look forward to future too if we are lucky enough for game to continue to live on. Paladen deserves respect and the people bashing us are wayyyy out of line and imo idiots. We have given countless players a chance to experience this game in a squad format no others would.

    I didn't implement anything officially myself to twd cup also. I was part of the initial brainstorm ideas that were then developed and run with by upper staff. The cup is being a success too. TWD activity is higher than it has been in 18 months and that is a fact.

    See you all in game and hopefully Sunday for playoffs. PC out..
    Please... With all respect, its the same 20 people playing over and over again. Most games that are played lately are with 2 borrows in 3s... Thats basicly a wbduel/javduel. And if the TWD activity is higher, its nice. But that doesnt make the TWD Cup a success, its far from a success if you see squads forfeiting. Also there is no competition at all, the games are actually very terrible. The DDs are just a stray fest, most of the kills nowaday are from Range3... Really fun! (This is not just you, but DD in general)

    And you may not implemented anything to the TWD Cup, but we both know all the rules that have been added are in favour of the 'worse' players/squads. Most of the good players have been inactive now and with the +5 rule and top 5 to qualify, we all knew it would be Paladen, Equinox, Ill, Envy and Sulake who would play. Tiny tried is best to split up the competition, but never had a chance cuz they werent active..
    Everyone in this TWD Cup thing are moslty on those active squads as far as I know and have no experience in hosting leagues or what so ever.

    And please stop acting like you are so innocent. Try looking in the mirror for once as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessup View Post
    I put in countless hours in game doing help and cheater calls and training new players ect..
    LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jessup View Post
    Paladen has done a lot for this game over the years and Jebass , up in ya !! and every one of our members through the years should be proud of what we have accomplished for the game.
    And what exactly has Paladen accomplished other than being the laughing squad for 2 decades now? Hmm?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jessup View Post
    I didn't implement anything officially myself to twd cup also. I was part of the initial brainstorm ideas that were then developed and run with by upper staff. The cup is being a success too. TWD activity is higher than it has been in 18 months and that is a fact.
    So you admit being the one who had the idea of the cup. Great.
    You also admit it is a success while 2 of the main contenders left during the first week of playoffs. Great.
    TWD is good? All I see is like 2-3 games played per week. Great.

    God I'm glad I finally realized what a dumbass I was trying to help you guys out and playing this game in 2018. Enjoy your Salami leagues and Jessup cups.
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    Nobody has a issue with Paladen, yes the new snipe and run play style you got them to adopt anoys me, but its up to me to improve how I counter that.
    Jebass and Upster are top blokes and nobody has a issue with them, only with you.

    For staff the issue is you and unfortunatly you and your disregard for rules and your attitude. I have witnessed myself and heard complaints from reputable sources of your conduct in staff on numerous occasions.
    I was a terrible staffer and I admitt that, hence why I went down in Iron Survivors hall of fame for worst staffer, But I always had respect, remained proffesional and never flirted or broke the rules.
    You sir are a disgrace to all staff who have held that role.

    You have lost faith with the community and I implore you please step down from staff and and away from any decision making that remains left in this game

    Rather than playing victim after this post and instantly going on the counter attack, think for a second and as major said and please take a good long hard look at yourself in the mirror and ask why am I being picked on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Attacks View Post
    Nobody has a issue with Paladen, yes the new snipe and run play style you got them to adopt anoys me, but its up to me to improve how I counter that.
    Jebass and Upster are top blokes and nobody has a issue with them, only with you.

    For staff the issue is you and unfortunatly you and your disregard for rules and your attitude. I have witnessed myself and heard complaints from reputable sources of your conduct in staff on numerous occasions.
    I was a terrible staffer and I admitt that, hence why I went down in Iron Survivors hall of fame for worst staffer, But I always had respect, remained proffesional and never flirted or broke the rules.
    You sir are a disgrace to all staff who have held that role.

    You have lost faith with the community and I implore you please step down from staff and and away from any decision making that remains left in this game

    Rather than playing victim after this post and instantly going on the counter attack, think for a second and as major said and please take a good long hard look at yourself in the mirror and ask why am I being picked on?
    That's a lotta you.

    EDIT: Fk I sound like Cres now. Afk.
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    As for what Attacks said on a more serious note, you are gonna be the downfall of Trench Wars, Jessup. You and you alone. Hope you are really proud of yourself.
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    What did I do that was so bad in staff?? list it.... I'll be happy to talk about it. I took responsibility for a few missteps as I said but have NOTHING to hide. Tell me how I am to blame for the downfall of trench wars wii.. lol this stuff is stupid scapegoating. I have many friends here btw,, just not the few vocal dum dums on forums who constantly attack me.. and over what?? My play style?? fine you don't like how I play big deal...........
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    With all this hostility and lack of competitive team play it seems like a good time to start 1v1 2v2 duel league again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessup View Post
    What did I do that was so bad in staff?? list it.... I'll be happy to talk about it. I took responsibility for a few missteps as I said but have NOTHING to hide. Tell me how I am to blame for the downfall of trench wars wii.. lol this stuff is stupid scapegoating. I have many friends here btw,, just not the few vocal dum dums on forums who constantly attack me.. and over what?? My play style?? fine you don't like how I play big deal...........
    Just as Attacks said don't cry back and make a constructive post...bah, why are people so dumb?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Attacks View Post
    Rather than playing victim after this post and instantly going on the counter attack, think for a second and as major said and please take a good long hard look at yourself in the mirror and ask why am I being picked on?
    Jessup failed at the first attempt of asking...lol...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessup View Post
    What did I do that was so bad in staff?? list it.... I'll be happy to talk about it. I took responsibility for a few missteps as I said but have NOTHING to hide. Tell me how I am to blame for the downfall of trench wars wii.. lol this stuff is stupid scapegoating. I have many friends here btw,, just not the few vocal dum dums on forums who constantly attack me.. and over what?? My play style?? fine you don't like how I play big deal...........
    Quote Originally Posted by Jessup View Post
    What did I do that was so bad in staff?? list it.... I'll be happy to talk about it. I took responsibility for a few missteps as I said but have NOTHING to hide. Tell me how I am to blame for the downfall of trench wars wii.. lol this stuff is stupid scapegoating. I have many friends here btw,, just not the few vocal dum dums on forums who constantly attack me.. and over what?? My play style?? fine you don't like how I play big deal...........
    Jessup, you are definitely the worst staffer in this game currently and quite possibly historically. Has nothing to do with Paladen, or your god awful playstyle, has to do with YOU, your attitude and your recklessness.


    • During my time as a staffer I saw you abuse IP checks on players you didn't like (mainly myself) causing them or their teammates to lag heavily in matches which usually resulted in the team you spammed losing.



    • I've seen you on numerous occasions spam robobot !tell messages to other staffers and players.



    • I've seen you take ?help calls from players that bad mouthed other staffers you don't like and have the audacity to then send out a thank you message to said player, which is totally against the rules mind you because you have ZERO business taking those calls since they should be directed to upper staff via e-mail..That and to thank them for doing that is so petty and unprofessional.



    • I've seen you kill games both in TWD matches as well as in javduel/wbduel events because either you were upset or simply didn't like how things were going.



    • I've seen you abuse chat during TWD games by either speaking during blueouts, spamming other players or sending freq messages.



    • I've seen you abuse the ?help caller when you literally have no need to since you are on staff, most recently was for an issue concerning pubbux you lost during a duel in which you kept sending ?help calls to ask people to give your money back when all you had to do was talk in staff chat. Come on!


    There is more but I've already wrote out a novel of just the shit you've done within the last 3 months.

    You are far, far from innocent. And never once owned up to your foolish actions and poor representations as being a staffer. Not once.

    You are the worst staffer I've ever encountered and have done shit for this game other than abuse powers.

    Never seen you take a help call unless you had a motive behind it, (like taking calls from players bad mouthing staffers you don't like only to thank the player for sending the help), never seen you train anyone, hell when I joined you didn't offer shit and when I asked you questions, you had no idea for stuff that was simple, passing me off to others or telling me to look it up in manuals.

    Goes for new players, never seen you take any of those either, maybe back when you were a ZH years ago but definitely nothing recently.

    You don't do shit but abuse your powers, you know, we know it, I just gave you a bunch of examples from my short time with staff. I mean considering I was only on for like 2 months and you did all of that says something Jessup. You have no right to be on staff and again, WE know it. You have lost touch with reality and it shows. Take a fucking look around, you have lost a lot of good friends over your childish and immature behavior yet you still don't understand why? There was a time where I even considered you a best bud but anymore I can't stand you.

    Grow up. Reflect on your own actions and be real with yourself for once in your life. Every time someone criticizes you, you go on the defense and brush it off like they are just trying to pick on you for no reason. It's not the case Jess, there is valid reasons, you bring almost all this heat on yourself from your own actions. Take responsibly like an adult for once.

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    PS: Would like to note that Henry is and was aware of this constant abuse and Jessup was canned several times only to be reinstated by Henry. It doesn't make shit for sense to keep Jessup on staff unless there wasn't something more than what we know. Any person with half a brain or ounce of common sense would have axed Jessup years ago as it would be better for the zone, staff and the community as a whole. As you can see from my examples as well as am sure some you've experienced in game, he is a poor representation of staff and makes staff as a whole look like a bunch of clowns that are only there to abuse powers. Though the latter may be more or less not related directly to Jessup entirely since there are other bad apples in the mix that are just as degrading and damaging as he is.

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    I've decided to not make this thread about me and let trolls have their way making up lies and things like ixador just did.. ixador you are pulling stuff out of thin air. I can't even check IP's for example , I was suspended from staff once for 2 weeks which again I've decided not to go into for staff confidential reasons but it certainly was not 3-4 times in last few months I've been axed. Utter nonsense....I have trained many ZH's in last few months fully, I have said thank you in tells to players offering concerns.. lol Saying "thank you" is my crime?? It was a nice gesture not some twisted demented thing your mind has made up. I can NOT kill twd matches. I do NOT abuse blueout except by accident which is rare and would be something like "a coord or one letter like "z". As a mod I do !tells relevant to issues and call I receive sometimes.. yes that is our job. Staff has sometimes played with them with each other using tells but it is not a big deal. .Thinking of one incident which was suposed to be cute where some drama ensued but it wasn't a big deal. You just are wilding fabricating things. It is ridiculous.
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    I dont think there is any evidence that ip checking is making you lag. Stopped reading there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessup View Post
    I've decided to not make this thread about me and let trolls have their way making up lies and things like ixador just did.. ixador you are pulling stuff out of thin air. I can't even check IP's for example , I was suspended from staff once for 2 weeks which again I've decided not to go into for staff confidential reasons but it certainly was not 3-4 times in last few months I've been axed. Utter nonsense....I have trained many ZH's in last few months fully, I have said thank you in tells to players offering concerns.. lol Saying "thank you" is my crime?? It was a nice gesture not some twisted demented thing your mind has made up. I can NOT kill twd matches. I do NOT abuse blueout except by accident which is rare and would be something like "a coord or one letter like "z". As a mod I do !tells relevant to issues and call I receive sometimes.. yes that is our job. Staff has sometimes played with them with each other using tells but it is not a big deal. .Thinking of one incident which was suposed to be cute where some drama ensued but it wasn't a big deal. You just are wilding fabricating things. It is ridiculous.
    Don't even read the rest if you wanna trust Jessup. Yipes!
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