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    Official Warning: Steadman

    Is Steadman banned yet for refusing to play? I know in the past we have had the issue of top drafts refusing to play and trying to force trades etc. From that, I believe we dropped them, banned them, and picked up a equivalent players from FA. Unless this was resolved since last night, which I doubt, because it's Steadman.
    1:waven> u challenge
    1:waven> if i challenge it looks too scary

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    I dont know what happened there. But all I know is that I got Steadman pm'ing me with "Dont trade for me, I dont play TWDT"
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    Steadman had a bad day im sure he's not quitting and will realize he overreacted.. banning only hurts Myth's team, he picked him for a reason.

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    Banning would not hurt if he was replaced. I feel it would help set a precedent that I believe was already set for no tolerance for this garbage act.
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    lol curse would like some replacements too, never mind that this is a DRAFT league

    seriously though - agree with zidane

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    Top picks are different than regular replacements. It's happened before and has been dealt with before. Yes, you can say, we all have people "not showing" and want different picks and you can take bits and pieces from the story and make it sound right to yourself (skyforger), but if you are intelligent enough to know the ramifications of someone with high talents signing up that does affect the outcome of an entire season for an entire team as there are not many high stars playing, and then refusing to play and demanding trades, you can clearly see its a bigger deal than adding snarky, useless comments. If you are involved in leagues, you should take this seriously instead of saying dumb shit and do something about it.
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    Perhaps a peaceful resolution that is in the rules of trade, that can benefit Mythril, Steadman, another captain and TWDT as a whole. Lets not be too quick to ban people just yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny View Post
    Is Steadman banned yet for refusing to play? I know in the past we have had the issue of top drafts refusing to play and trying to force trades etc. From that, I believe we dropped them, banned them, and picked up a equivalent players from FA. Unless this was resolved since last night, which I doubt, because it's Steadman.
    This is priceless. Ban a player because they refuse to play ROFLLLLLLLL. Very immature to run to forums outing him before attempting to have a conversation with him about it. People have their days.. give the guy a break and try to talk to him

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    he came in late to the arena for the 2nd twdtd game. the line was already in and had just started. he immediately spammed to be subbed in to everyone on the frequency. he then stated that he will play every league every time or none at all. he then refused to play the rest of the games that day.

    youre right, there was alot of room in there to reason with the guy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeebu View Post
    he came in late to the arena for the 2nd twdtd game. the line was already in and had just started. he immediately spammed to be subbed in to everyone on the frequency. he then stated that he will play every league every time or none at all. he then refused to play the rest of the games that day.

    youre right, there was alot of room in there to reason with the guy.
    what zeebu said. But yea im crazy....
    1:waven> u challenge
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    Hope you contract ebola from your, no doubt cheap, Easter Egg, you fucking shit-jav, pug-faced cunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeebu View Post
    he came in late to the arena for the 2nd twdtd game. the line was already in and had just started. he immediately spammed to be subbed in to everyone on the frequency. he then stated that he will play every league every time or none at all. he then refused to play the rest of the games that day.

    youre right, there was alot of room in there to reason with the guy.
    Yeah you're right, that does seem very irrational. I didn't know the specifics. Still think a player shouldn't be banned, though.. trade him if anything.

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    Steadman keeps bypassing my ignore using names:

    Not Steadman
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    Can someone netban him please? Tired of this non-stop harassment. Thix and skyforger have done the same things spamming me mid-game during leagues in the past, and staff continues to be useless on one of the few actual duties they have.

    I laughed incredibly hard at skyforger saying "the elaborate rules vys kindly prepared for this season" when you literally just copy pasta'd all my work from the previous season(s). You people do almost nothing, you're only interested in being in charge because you're terrible at this game and need to feel powerful. No standings up on Sunday, you don't write Hot or Nots, no previews, and you ran TSL into the ground within 6 months with horrid changes.

    Do one of the few things you're actually supposed to do, and stop letting psychos harass people by bypassing ignore and spamming people during league games to fill their screen with text.

    I sent screenshot after screenshot to Qan and others in the past and they did nothing about it months ago. You're complete jokes.

    Do your job.
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    Fuck Steadman, ban that faggot for spamming Myth in pms and everyone in freq chat. Good riddance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claushouse View Post
    Steadman keeps bypassing my ignore using names:

    Not Steadman
    Hellwig
    Demonking99

    Can someone netban him please? Tired of this non-stop harassment. Thix and skyforger have done the same things spamming me mid-game during leagues in the past, and staff continues to be useless on one of the few actual duties they have.

    I laughed incredibly hard at skyforger saying "the elaborate rules vys kindly prepared for this season" when you literally just copy pasta'd all my work from the previous season(s). You people do almost nothing, you're only interested in being in charge because you're terrible at this game and need to feel powerful. No standings up on Sunday, you don't write Hot or Nots, no previews, and you ran TSL into the ground within 6 months with horrid changes.

    Do one of the few things you're actually supposed to do, and stop letting psychos harass people by bypassing ignore and spamming people during league games to fill their screen with text.

    I sent screenshot after screenshot to Qan and others in the past and they did nothing about it months ago. You're complete jokes.

    Do your job.
    I didn't spam you during leagues though you fat ugly bald fuck lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claushouse View Post
    Do one of the few things you're actually supposed to do, and stop letting psychos harass people by bypassing ignore and spamming people during league games to fill their screen with text.

    I sent screenshot after screenshot to Qan and others in the past and they did nothing about it months ago. You're complete jokes.

    Do your job.
    The issue's always been with verifying identity. We have records for players in TW. We don't have records for any outside it. We can work with other zone owners in some situations, though not all. As far as I know, no other zone holds records of players the way TW does.

    If someone isn't outright saying, "hello, yes, I am the one who has been spamming you" on their name in TW, it can often be impossible to verify the identity of a cross-zone spammer after the fact.

    This is why, as much as you complained, and as much as I explained that we need a way to connect person A to person B, we weren't able to take action in the past. However, if you're being cross-zone spammed and a sysop's currently online, netbanning based on immediate evidence is possible, as there's no need to connect A to B.

    But usually very little can be done after the fact. It's an unfortunate problem inherent in our old and dispersed technology. I'm still always willing to look at logs and screenshots and see if there's any information that can be gathered/links can be established between identities. You should also provide logs/screenshots to tucker. Then we can respond according to the ban protocol.

    In the meantime, in order to combat cross-zone spam, I recommend doing the following:

    1. Using ?namelen=21 and then ?ignore during a death (copypaste from chat window if needed). Do not respond to the name telling them you're ignoring them, as obviously they'll just switch names to continue. Do not respond to anything at all.
    2. Using ?lines=0
    3. Using Discord or another VoIP program to coordinate with your team. (Captains, if you'd like to set up a private Discord channel on http://www.trenchwars.org/discord/ that you can moderate and restrict access to, please let me know.)
    4. Treating people with respect and dignity, and not instead being a pompous, insufferable twit.
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    Does anyone read Ogron's comments lol

    I read 5 words then can't go on anymore
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unlimited View Post
    This is priceless. Ban a player because they refuse to play ROFLLLLLLLL. Very immature to run to forums outing him before attempting to have a conversation with him about it. People have their days.. give the guy a break and try to talk to him
    Yea i'm the bad guy here. He cost us atleast 2 games.....give him a break....how many breaks must we give? Please enlighten us so we can count how many times until its a big deal enough for you. Someone fucks our week up on purpose, and you expect us to just accept it. Trolls are great.
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    Hope you contract ebola from your, no doubt cheap, Easter Egg, you fucking shit-jav, pug-faced cunt.

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    Great to see you again, Oggie.

    It's strange that I don't feel real irony saying that. While you're not the healthiest thing for this community, you certainly do keep it interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qan View Post
    Great to see you again, Oggie.

    It's strange that I don't feel real irony saying that. While you're not the healthiest thing for this community, you certainly do keep it interesting.
    Right, keeping the game alive through 5 of the most successful TWDT seasons in the game's history and 2 great TSL seasons (before you ruined it and ran it into the ground without me) is definitely a detriment to this game. Year after year of hot or nots, previews, reviews, written and graphical content, maintaining the league's history, and spamming 500 people a season for 5 years to keep things active, while being an active player, is definitely a detriment.

    Not to mention this current season of TWDT, the last standing league of any value, is a carbon copy/paste job of all my previous work. Literally the best decision ever made by anyone currently on staff was copying that. So kudos to Vys, Henry, and Skyforger on getting that right.

    As opposed to you, Qan, who gave us this awful pub (pub used to be incredibly fun back in the day), multiple failed steam visibility rounds, and keep throwing all those new players into that dogshit pub you created and failing to retain those players by obstinately ignoring advice of players and immediately exposing them to the actual good parts of the game.

    You're not a competitive player, you have no idea how to run competitive leagues, and you're never online, which means you have zero pulse on the game or the player base.

    You instead login at 3am and listen to Jessup and Skyforger and believe what they're saying, and make terrible decisions based on those interactions because you're gullible and biased.

    The only real success in this game you've been a part of was helping me with TSL, and you decided to repeatedly undermine me and backstab me, siding with cheaters and trolls instead of properly dealing with them.

    You hide a massive ego behind your politeness and propriety, which is completely unearned given the damage you've done to this game through your incompetence over the years.

    You're the main reason behind the steam visibility rounds, pub, and TSL having failed, and you should honestly be embarrassed to be strutting around you like you thinking you're hot shit and talking down to me.
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    Oh boy this just got real interesting

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